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Post by mannkindly on Jan 20, 2017 9:08:58 GMT -5
Low priced stock options are the driving force for new employees to MNKD. And from my past experience companies do (with a whisper or wink) tip-off potential employees that something big is about to happen. So, if we see the sales force positions filled in record time and a couple more senior level people join MNKD, then its on baby. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2017 9:30:45 GMT -5
ok.
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Post by pengiep on Jan 20, 2017 9:31:57 GMT -5
we long suffering MNKD longs can only hope!
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Post by sportsrancho on Jan 20, 2017 9:47:33 GMT -5
Low priced stock options are the driving force for new employees to MNKD. And from my past experience companies do (with a whisper or wink) tip-off potential employees that something big is about to happen. So, if we see the sales force positions filled in record time and a couple more senior level people join MNKD, then its on baby. I'll go with that:-) If it was me, I'd tell the new to be hired that the company has a five year plan. Get on board now or not... |
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Post by kbrion77 on Jan 20, 2017 10:13:03 GMT -5
People just continue to post what everyone wants to hear, mindboggling.
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Post by silentknight on Jan 20, 2017 10:14:34 GMT -5
Low priced stock options are the driving force for new employees to MNKD. And from my past experience companies do (with a whisper or wink) tip-off potential employees that something big is about to happen. So, if we see the sales force positions filled in record time and a couple more senior level people join MNKD, then its on baby. I'm all in favor of MNKD offering their employees stock options as payment instead of traditional salaries. In my opinion, it provides incentive for employees to perform and make the company grow, which will in turn make their (and our) personal financial situations grow. However, I think MNKD is offering low priced stock options to their people because the company simply doesn't have the cash to afford such a large staff these days and they want to avoid increasing their cash burn rate through expensive salaries. I'm not a believer that simply because they offer stock options, good things loom. They have no other option and it doesn't mean a thing. Reading the tea leaves can be dangerous. There has been a lot of prognosticating lately about how everything is lining up for greatness. Meanwhile we're at a share price of .65 and weekly scripts of 200. It's comical and it's also eerily reminiscent of what we had just after the Sanofi deal and we all know how that turned out. |
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Post by tw12 on Jan 20, 2017 11:43:05 GMT -5
People just continue to post what everyone wants to hear, mindboggling. Really? I, for one, try my best to post what I hope is relevant, thoughtful and to the point of each discussion. Seems clear to me that most every contributor here tries to contribute some variation on that same theme. I'm happy with the fact the insight and attitude of each delivery, including yours, is all over the map. My intended strong suit is encouragement. What's yours? |
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Post by kbrion77 on Jan 20, 2017 12:30:20 GMT -5
People just continue to post what everyone wants to hear, mindboggling. Really? I, for one, try my best to post what I hope is relevant, thoughtful and to the point of each discussion. Seems clear to me that most every contributor here tries to contribute some variation on that same theme. I'm happy with the fact the insight and attitude of each delivery, including yours, is all over the map. My intended strong suit is encouragement. What's yours? I have been around long enough to see that what people hope for for MNKD is essentially squashed in a matter of time, that is just the reality but it is mostly because people post or hope for the most ludacris and far fetched ideas. I find it crazy that something along the lines of, "get ready something big is going to happen" is met with open arms while a comment such as, "the cash position is a major concern and the product is just not selling" is attacked as bashing while the latter is actually a true fact. I'd rather see people be hard on the company rather than continue to pile on the excuses. I remember when all the insider selling was happening (remember Diane Palumbo?) and yes a few were furious but others used the excuse of well they have set up automatic selling due to the partnership with Sanofi which will double the share price in a year. |
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Post by steve on Jan 20, 2017 12:37:03 GMT -5
tw12,
Dont' worry. The negative nellies are Skreli moles. No worries man.
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Post by sportsrancho on Jan 20, 2017 12:59:54 GMT -5
Really? I, for one, try my best to post what I hope is relevant, thoughtful and to the point of each discussion. Seems clear to me that most every contributor here tries to contribute some variation on that same theme. I'm happy with the fact the insight and attitude of each delivery, including yours, is all over the map. My intended strong suit is encouragement. What's yours? I have been around long enough to see that what people hope for for MNKD is essentially squashed in a matter of time, that is just the reality but it is mostly because people post or hope for the most ludacris and far fetched ideas. I find it crazy that something along the lines of, "get ready something big is going to happen" is met with open arms while a comment such as, "the cash position is a major concern and the product is just not selling" is attacked as bashing while the latter is actually a true fact. I'd rather see people be hard on the company rather than continue to pile on the excuses. I remember when all the insider selling was happening (remember Diane Palumbo?) and yes a few were furious but others used the excuse of well they have set up automatic selling due to the partnership with Sanofi which will double the share price in a year. I really can't believe I sat there through all that insider selling! You're right about that. I also would ( like ) not that you care:-) a lot more of your posts. But along with some great points you say stuff about another poster that I don't like. Like the way you talked to Rick about that fund that bought shares. ( The older article). I post what I really think along with you and others. There are some things I'm very happy with. Others that bother me. I'd like to know how many reps have actually seen a doctor. |
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Post by kbrion77 on Jan 20, 2017 13:28:16 GMT -5
I have been around long enough to see that what people hope for for MNKD is essentially squashed in a matter of time, that is just the reality but it is mostly because people post or hope for the most ludacris and far fetched ideas. I find it crazy that something along the lines of, "get ready something big is going to happen" is met with open arms while a comment such as, "the cash position is a major concern and the product is just not selling" is attacked as bashing while the latter is actually a true fact. I'd rather see people be hard on the company rather than continue to pile on the excuses. I remember when all the insider selling was happening (remember Diane Palumbo?) and yes a few were furious but others used the excuse of well they have set up automatic selling due to the partnership with Sanofi which will double the share price in a year. I really can't believe I sat there through all that insider selling! You're right about that. I also would ( like ) not that you care:-) a lot more of your posts. But along with some great points you say stuff about another poster that I don't like. Like the way you talked to Rick about that fund that bought shares. ( The older article). I post what I really think along with you and others. There are some things I'm very happy with. Others that bother me. I'd like to know how many reps have actually seen a doctor. I do respect your posts and respect what you a single handily trying to do to promote Afrezza, it's actually uncanny what shareholders are doing to trying to spread the word. I was probably a bit too hard on Rick and I know it was a shotty article but I wanted it to be known it was not a new event. We live in an investing world where an article like that spreads like wild fire and it did through StockTwits and then on here and like it or not that stuff influences decisions. Personally my concern level rises as each day passes and no headway is being made. Absolutely no doubt in my mind Matt, Mike and Co. are working their you know whats off but that will not automatically lead to success. I mean even if you bought 5 years ago before Phase 3 results you would be down over 70% today. As a shareholder I'm frustrated and that should not be considered bashing. Bashing is constantly saying the company sucks, Matt has ripped everyone off, MNKD will go bankrupt, Afrezza does not work, MNKD shareholders are bagholder losers, etc. I have never said anything of the sort but I will certainly question nonsense posts that seem to be picking up steam lately. In my honest opinion pumping is way more dangerous. |
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Post by porkini on Jan 20, 2017 13:36:35 GMT -5
I really can't believe I sat there through all that insider selling! You're right about that. I also would ( like ) not that you care:-) a lot more of your posts. But along with some great points you say stuff about another poster that I don't like. Like the way you talked to Rick about that fund that bought shares. ( The older article). I post what I really think along with you and others. There are some things I'm very happy with. Others that bother me. I'd like to know how many reps have actually seen a doctor. I do respect your posts and respect what you a single handily trying to do to promote Afrezza, it's actually uncanny what shareholders are doing to trying to spread the word. I was probably a bit too hard on Rick and I know it was a shotty article but I wanted it to be known it was not a new event. We live in an investing world where an article like that spreads like wild fire and it did through StockTwits and then on here and like it or not that stuff influences decisions. Personally my concern level rises as each day passes and no headway is being made. Absolutely no doubt in my mind Matt, Mike and Co. are working their you know whats off but that will not automatically lead to success. I mean even if you bought 5 years ago before Phase 3 results you would be down over 70% today. As a shareholder I'm frustrated and that should not be considered bashing. Bashing is constantly saying the company sucks, Matt has ripped everyone off, MNKD will go bankrupt, Afrezza does not work, MNKD shareholders are bagholder losers, etc. I have never said anything of the sort but I will certainly question nonsense posts that seem to be picking up steam lately. In my honest opinion pumping is way more dangerous. Thank you both for your contributions, I do not post a lot but do read as much as time permits and appreciate diversity of opinion as long as it is not baseless bashing and/or pumping for the sake of doing so. My apologies in advance to anyone here who I've offended with this post.  |
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Post by sayhey24 on Jan 20, 2017 14:32:57 GMT -5
I really can't believe I sat there through all that insider selling! You're right about that. I also would ( like ) not that you care:-) a lot more of your posts. But along with some great points you say stuff about another poster that I don't like. Like the way you talked to Rick about that fund that bought shares. ( The older article). I post what I really think along with you and others. There are some things I'm very happy with. Others that bother me. I'd like to know how many reps have actually seen a doctor. I do respect your posts and respect what you a single handily trying to do to promote Afrezza, it's actually uncanny what shareholders are doing to trying to spread the word. I was probably a bit too hard on Rick and I know it was a shotty article but I wanted it to be known it was not a new event. We live in an investing world where an article like that spreads like wild fire and it did through StockTwits and then on here and like it or not that stuff influences decisions. Personally my concern level rises as each day passes and no headway is being made. Absolutely no doubt in my mind Matt, Mike and Co. are working their you know whats off but that will not automatically lead to success. I mean even if you bought 5 years ago before Phase 3 results you would be down over 70% today. As a shareholder I'm frustrated and that should not be considered bashing. Bashing is constantly saying the company sucks, Matt has ripped everyone off, MNKD will go bankrupt, Afrezza does not work, MNKD shareholders are bagholder losers, etc. I have never said anything of the sort but I will certainly question nonsense posts that seem to be picking up steam lately. In my honest opinion pumping is way more dangerous. I second your thoughts. The history is long on how we got here including Martin S. and who ever thought Martin would become world famous. The fact is Mannkind has a huge marketing issue. afrezza does one thing and one thing only it mimics phase 1 insulin release and can mimic phase 2 with proper monitoring and dosing. Clearly the 171 and 175 studies did not address what the product is. In many cases they under dosed for phase 1 and never dosed for phase 2. It is however the only product which mimics the pancreas like this. Even how it is packaged still makes no sense if what you are trying to do is mimic phase 1&2 release. 90 cartridges is not going to cover a month as you would minimally need twice that. At the same time Mannkind says its priced right yet selling into a market which has created a black market for Medicaid purchased test strips. IMO, the only thing which will save Mannkind is technology, CGMs and the cloud. afrezza will live on if MNKD's cash runs dry but MNKD still has a chance but it won't be easy. Selling direct to endos IMO is an absolute waste of time but I hope I am wrong and Mike knows better. If MNKD runs dry someone with the technology and money will pick up afrezza for cheap and change how current diabetes is treated from the ground up but it will need to be an external force. |
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Post by tchalaa on Jan 20, 2017 14:35:16 GMT -5
I do respect your posts and respect what you a single handily trying to do to promote Afrezza, it's actually uncanny what shareholders are doing to trying to spread the word. I was probably .... I have never said anything of the sort but I will certainly question nonsense posts that seem to be picking up steam lately. In my honest opinion pumping is way more dangerous.
thx to kbrion77 I'm observing a VERY dangerous trend being speculation over speculation, we need to stick to the facts seconded by exploring the next move. Please let get back to the basics 101 of due diligence. This is why I started the thread on bankruptcy or turnaround, because regarding the product we know that it works very well so the delivery platform as well. We had plan A with Sanofi, it was a great failure, further was Relaunch with Mannkind 2.0 with plan B1 that failed due to contracted sales forces, now we are moving towards plan B2 with full time sales forces Mannkind employees, while having in mind DTC Ads, Label improvement and major Insurances coverage. Some prefer technical analysis, others fundamentals, maybe even both, but at the end of the day: owning stock of a company is owning a share of the company, we should better do our due diligence on marketing and business development. We are there right now |
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Jan 20, 2017 14:55:59 GMT -5
Low priced stock options are the driving force for new employees to MNKD. And from my past experience companies do (with a whisper or wink) tip-off potential employees that something big is about to happen. So, if we see the sales force positions filled in record time and a couple more senior level people join MNKD, then its on baby. Guess you aren't very familiar with startups. Often teams are built at break neck speed when needed... no "something big about to happen" required. But thanks for keeping the dream alive. |
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