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Post by n8 on Feb 15, 2017 18:27:56 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 18:31:26 GMT -5
I dont think it matters whether the article is bs or not. What matters is the incorrect and correct way to read institutional ownership.
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Post by sayhey24 on Feb 15, 2017 18:33:36 GMT -5
No - Vanguard keeps buying. I suspect they own more than that by now. Vanguard announced last week they passed $4 trillion in holdings so they have plenty of money. They have been following MNKD for a long time and I suspect have a pretty good understanding of afrezza and its implications of being a monomer human insulin. |
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Post by falconquest on Feb 15, 2017 19:11:40 GMT -5
The Vanguard Funds are broken down into many different funds (of course) so you would have to check with Vanguard to see their Mannkind holdings. I know they hold a bunch of shares spread among many different funds. |
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Post by kbrion77 on Feb 15, 2017 19:14:41 GMT -5
No - Vanguard keeps buying. I suspect they own more than that by now. Vanguard announced last week they passed $4 trillion in holdings so they have plenty of money. They have been following MNKD for a long time and I suspect have a pretty good understanding of afrezza and its implications of being a monomer human insulin. No. Simply put securities lending is a lucrative business, nothing more to see here. |
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Post by fap on Feb 15, 2017 19:19:32 GMT -5
I see VANGUARD GROUP INC 12/31/2016 17,683,290
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Post by derek2 on Feb 15, 2017 19:23:32 GMT -5
The Vanguard Funds are broken down into many different funds (of course) so you would have to check with Vanguard to see their Mannkind holdings. I know they hold a bunch of shares spread among many different funds. Here you go All index funds, which means that Vanguard just passively buys in order to mirror their index and then sells to other investors. Vanguard Total Stock Mkt Idx 6,859,104 Vanguard Small Cap Index 3,499,480 Vanguard Extended Market Idx Inv 3,498,841 Vanguard Small Cap Growth Index Inv 1,948,473 Vanguard Health Care ETF 576,324 The Vanguard Russell 2000 Growth Index 517,143 And since I always show my work: investors.morningstar.com/ownership/shareholders-overview.html?t=MNKD |
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Post by n8 on Feb 15, 2017 19:28:02 GMT -5
Thank you for the input. In the future where do I look to find that kind of info? Isn't it a good thing that Vanguard continues to buy? My understanding is that Vanguard is a respectable Institution.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:33:00 GMT -5
Thank you for the input. In the future where do I look to find that kind of info? Isn't it a good thing that Vanguard continues to buy? My understanding is that Vanguard is a respectable Institution. it isnt Vanguard thats making the decision. Ex: My employer and my wife's emeployer offer vanguard funds and we can only buy those funds in our 401k. So every $ that goes in our 401k to those funds, the funds have to buy equivalent stocks in the fund. As simple as that. |
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Post by n8 on Feb 15, 2017 19:40:50 GMT -5
So you should be able to look at your company 401K plan and see which fund holds MannKind right?
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Post by gamblerjag on Feb 15, 2017 20:08:59 GMT -5
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Post by sayhey24 on Feb 15, 2017 20:38:19 GMT -5
I see VANGUARD GROUP INC 12/31/2016 17,683,290 18M sounds about right. Interesting is that they kept buying when the stock was under $5 and then under $3. That typically requires special permission. Why did they do that, to lend the shares out? Maybe, but it seems like a lot of risk for a very conservative and risk adverse firm. |
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Post by mango on Feb 15, 2017 20:46:33 GMT -5
Since this info came from Morninstar...
Vanguard Total Stock Mkt Idx 6,859,104
—Morningstar Rating: Gold
Vanguard Small Cap Index 3,499,480
—Morningstar Rating: Gold
Vanguard Extended Market Idx Inv 3,498,841
—Morningstar Rating: Gold
Vanguard Small Cap Growth Index Inv 1,948,473
—Morningstar Rating: Silver
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Post by falconquest on Feb 15, 2017 20:49:59 GMT -5
So you should be able to look at your company 401K plan and see which fund holds MannKind right? You would have to look at each fund within the 401k to see what their holdings are. Generally within the plan you have funds to choose. You should be able to look at the holdings of each of the individual funds within the plan and see what percentage of the fund is invested in each individual stock etc. |
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Feb 15, 2017 20:59:38 GMT -5
No - Vanguard keeps buying. I suspect they own more than that by now. Vanguard announced last week they passed $4 trillion in holdings so they have plenty of money. They have been following MNKD for a long time and I suspect have a pretty good understanding of afrezza and its implications of being a monomer human insulin. Vanguard with $4 Trillion in holdings is following and understanding a $3M holding closely? Seems like a rounding error for them. If they understood, and assuming understanding is good, why would they not invest a meaningful amount in MNKD? |
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