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Post by od on Oct 20, 2017 20:22:08 GMT -5
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Post by xanet on Oct 20, 2017 20:48:58 GMT -5
And a number of likes by people with pretty fancy titles. Nice move IMO.
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Post by mnkdfann on Oct 20, 2017 21:37:51 GMT -5
The link suggests that Mannkind is targetting people laid off by Merck. Mannkind did the same sort of thing a year or two ago, when another pharma laid off its employees (off the top of my head, I cannot recall which pharma it was). Didn't work out all that well. You gotta remember, people being laid off are not the cream of the crop. |
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Post by straightly on Oct 21, 2017 0:08:22 GMT -5
The link suggests that Mannkind is targetting people laid off by Merck. Mannkind did the same sort of thing a year or two ago, when another pharma laid off its employees (off the top of my head, I cannot recall which pharma it was). Didn't work out all that well. You gotta remember, people being laid off are not the cream of the crop. Yes, I remembered that part. That was when Mike reported that things were going well because the sales people were telling that doctors were excited. Sales did not go up after that. I am convinced that this time around, Mike has some things more effective to measure rather than the reported excitements of doctors. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Oct 21, 2017 6:30:48 GMT -5
The link suggests that Mannkind is targetting people laid off by Merck. Mannkind did the same sort of thing a year or two ago, when another pharma laid off its employees (off the top of my head, I cannot recall which pharma it was). Didn't work out all that well. You gotta remember, people being laid off are not the cream of the crop. AstraZeneca |
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Post by xanet on Oct 21, 2017 8:02:03 GMT -5
The link suggests that Mannkind is targetting people laid off by Merck. Mannkind did the same sort of thing a year or two ago, when another pharma laid off its employees (off the top of my head, I cannot recall which pharma it was). Didn't work out all that well. You gotta remember, people being laid off are not the cream of the crop. Yes, but this isn't the initial build-up, this is just adding people to an existing sales team. They can be a lot more selective. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Oct 21, 2017 8:15:04 GMT -5
The link suggests that Mannkind is targetting people laid off by Merck. Mannkind did the same sort of thing a year or two ago, when another pharma laid off its employees (off the top of my head, I cannot recall which pharma it was). Didn't work out all that well. You gotta remember, people being laid off are not the cream of the crop. Yes, but this isn't the initial build-up, this is just adding people to an existing sales team. They can be a lot more selective. Right, and a lot of good people get laid off. Anyone who says otherwise is just talking smack. |
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Post by lennymnkd on Oct 21, 2017 8:20:12 GMT -5
And MNKD has the goods to make them good !!!!😀
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Post by mnkdfann on Oct 21, 2017 11:04:23 GMT -5
Yes, but this isn't the initial build-up, this is just adding people to an existing sales team. They can be a lot more selective. Right, and a lot of good people get laid off. Anyone who says otherwise is just talking smack. Some will be good. Many more will be relatively low performers. But even the good ones won't be the 'cream of the crop' (which is what I said). To be fair, I am not in pharma, and maybe there is not much difference between a good pharma rep and the best pharma rep. I dunno. But I don't see why we have to publicly advertise that we are targetting another company's cast-offs. The optics are just bad. That's just my opinion. YMMV. So instead of: "For top sales people impacted who have diabetes experience email us your resume with your home base in subject line and resume at Freedom@mannkindcorp.com." I would have preferred just: "Top sales people with diabetes experience email us your resume with your home base in subject line and resume at Freedom@mannkindcorp.com." And without the Merck story / graphic attached to it. |
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Post by mnholdem on Oct 21, 2017 12:31:47 GMT -5
Like any company, good performing sales reps who are smart and motivated may lose their jobs to a rep who has been with the company longer and has larger client base. It will be up to MannKind to determine who the good ones are.  |
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Post by kc on Oct 21, 2017 13:26:38 GMT -5
Right, and a lot of good people get laid off. Anyone who says otherwise is just talking smack. Some will be good. Many more will be relatively low performers. But even the good ones won't be the 'cream of the crop' (which is what I said). To be fair, I am not in pharma, and maybe there is not much difference between a good pharma rep and the best pharma rep. I dunno. But I don't see why we have to publicly advertise that we are targetting another company's cast-offs. The optics are just bad. That's just my opinion. YMMV. So instead of: "For top sales people impacted who have diabetes experience email us your resume with your home base in subject line and resume at Freedom@mannkindcorp.com." I would have preferred just: "Top sales people with diabetes experience email us your resume with your home base in subject line and resume at Freedom@mannkindcorp.com." And without the Merck story / graphic attached to it. The posting was very interesting but there are a couple responses and comments like this one below. What do you make of it.? You can’t make it up “Nate Stalnaker Pharmaceutical Sales (Diabetes Specialist) 2h Thanks Sean Hulin! I am definitely familiar with Afrezza and wholeheartedly believe in its capabilities. We had some challenges in our area with managed care and spirometry testing when I was selling for Sanofi, but I would gladly welcome the challenge. I have the upmost respect for Merck and believe in their ability to make it happen. Thanks again for your endorsement Sean Hulin! “  |
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Post by mnkdorbust on Oct 21, 2017 13:54:19 GMT -5
Some will be good. Many more will be relatively low performers. But even the good ones won't be the 'cream of the crop' (which is what I said). To be fair, I am not in pharma, and maybe there is not much difference between a good pharma rep and the best pharma rep. I dunno. But I don't see why we have to publicly advertise that we are targetting another company's cast-offs. The optics are just bad. That's just my opinion. YMMV. So instead of: "For top sales people impacted who have diabetes experience email us your resume with your home base in subject line and resume at Freedom@mannkindcorp.com." I would have preferred just: "Top sales people with diabetes experience email us your resume with your home base in subject line and resume at Freedom@mannkindcorp.com." And without the Merck story / graphic attached to it. The posting was very interesting but there are a couple responses and comments like this one below. What do you make of it.? You can’t make it up “Nate Stalnaker Pharmaceutical Sales (Diabetes Specialist) 2h Thanks Sean Hulin! I am definitely familiar with Afrezza and wholeheartedly believe in its capabilities. We had some challenges in our area with managed care and spirometry testing when I was selling for Sanofi, but I would gladly welcome the challenge. I have the upmost respect for Merck and believe in their ability to make it happen. Thanks again for your endorsement Sean Hulin! “ I'd love to have a beer with that guy |
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Post by lennymnkd on Oct 21, 2017 13:54:31 GMT -5
Like any company, good performing sales reps who are smart and motivated may lose their jobs to a rep who has been with the company longer and has larger client base. It will be up to MannKind to determine who the good ones are. I know sounds dated ! But reps have lost their job to someone with a bigger ROLODEX/ but with AFREZZA / technology we are reinventing the wheel ...maybe a little more of a level playing field for the employment picture . |
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Post by mnholdem on Oct 21, 2017 14:24:34 GMT -5
Excuse me but did Nate Stalnaker (see above) just write that he has the utmost confidence in Merck's ability to make Afrezza a success? Way to screw up a perfectly good endorsement, dude!  |
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Post by babaoriley on Oct 21, 2017 15:09:51 GMT -5
Yes, but this isn't the initial build-up, this is just adding people to an existing sales team. They can be a lot more selective. Right, and a lot of good people get laid off. Anyone who says otherwise is just talking smack. I 100% agree that a lot of very good people get laid off, not sure how many good salespeople get laid off. |
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