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Post by joeypotsandpans on Apr 16, 2018 11:45:32 GMT -5
So I waited to post this response to see if the "SA moderators" as (SO claims he has no influence on them) would see that this was a direct response on topic regarding SO's assertion about the MNKD sales reps being uninspired and not motivated as follows:The rep I know came from Dexcom and stated "this reminds me of the early stages of Dexcom years ago, we would only see very few CGM's go out the door on a daily basis, it took a while but look at them now, I'm not going anywhere".
In my conversations she is convinced that Afrezza is the best insulin currently on the market and those using it continue to reinforce her conviction....so "your opinion" that the sales team is not inspired or motivated is very suspect, subjective and at the very least irresponsible from a journalistic standpoint....it is those kind of non validated statements that get readers frustrated not the insinuations of the company heading for failure. I would imagine that most shareholders at this point are well aware of the risks involved with this equity. I doubt this will get posted along with every other one I have recently submitted. None of what is written here in this response is in bad faith but nevertheless unfortunately the truth will most likely get swept under the rug again.And so when Kastanes questions SO about that very statement regarding the sales reps, what does SO bring up as his single source: CAFE PHARMA!! AYFKM lmao! The most recent text I rec'd from the rep was a response to an inquiry about whether or not they were able to get into the previous endo office I was going to that was part of the UHC/OPTUM group, they stated the following: "No luck yet! I need my old doctor to send over my vaccination list to get approved to even get in the door (Provider name intentionally left blank) is tough when it comes to off formulary drugs. I'll keep trying though! Other than that I am seeing more and more writers  ". This hardly sounds like as SO states "It is looking tough. The sales team is not inspired or motivated in my opinion." ...again what's his source? What a joke! I'm sure when his "birdies" take this one to him he will again take everything out of context as I wouldn't expect anything else from him as he counters me cowardly from afar. I say cowardly because he knows I would eat his lunch if given the opportunity to not be selectively edited. If he chose he could ask the "SA moderators" to allow my comments to be seen, after all they're his articles, however, he continues to run rather than confront facts that contradict his thesis. Again this isn't to get into a pisssing match, rather I felt it was important to let the readers see a first hand encounter with one of the reps, rather than what he states as his second or third hand source being anonymous posters on Cafe Pharma LOL!!  |
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Post by sportsrancho on Apr 16, 2018 16:48:06 GMT -5
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Post by mannmade on Apr 16, 2018 17:04:28 GMT -5
Only took 16 years... What year are we in? And am not talking about dog years although each of ours feels like that long... |
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Apr 16, 2018 17:44:26 GMT -5
So here is SO's response and my suggestion as he insinuates that I avoided an invitation that I never did see: SO's reponse: He reposted my post and then stated: There is the FULL CONTEXT. As usual, you cast aspersions that simply do not feel with REALITY. You think you can "eat my lunch"......Nope. Not even close. From afar? Come meet me. Hec k, I put an invitation out a few weeks ago. I heard ZIP from you. Go figure. EOM I never saw the invitation (please direct me to where I might find it), although I actually thought of taking you up on the offer you made to Kevinmik though regarding the charity bet etc. with him recently. So with regard to your accusation of me lying or "hyperbole" as you put it with respect to the four physicians that didn't require any spirometry test from me let alone even mention it, here is my offer, I will put up the funds in a neutral spot for you to fly out to Las Vegas on my next visits with any 3 of my physicians (2 endos, 1 primary the other primary is no longer with the group provider). Why not just speak to them and the rep first hand rather than give any credit to 2nd and 3rd hand comments from Cafe Pharma. If anything I stated regarding the physicians or the rep is a lie or "hyperbole" you make the same contribution you mentioned to the following organizations, 75% to JDRF and 25% to ADA on Mannkind's behalf, I'm sure Al would have appreciated the philanthropic gesture Oh yeah btw, if Harlan, User, RS, and any of the others in the SO fan club wish to match it, well then the offer gets extended to them as well, you can have a "bro" weekend in Vegas...not sure I would be able to get all of you in to the patients room but I'm confident they would take your word for it. Again it's unfortunate that this is how I have to communicate with you but important enough that the truth and facts be available regarding your assertion about the MNKD reps. |
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Post by peppy on Apr 16, 2018 17:54:37 GMT -5
notice Dexcom because profitable after medicare approval.
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Apr 16, 2018 18:00:26 GMT -5
notice Dexcom because profitable after medicare approval. I picked up my new monthly supply of Libre sensors yesterday they dropped down to $40/mo. from $75/mo. must be in response to the new G6 maybe? |
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Post by compound26 on Apr 16, 2018 18:24:17 GMT -5
Only took 16 years... What year are we in? And am not talking about dog years although each of ours feels like that long... From the time Dexcom's first generation of CGM was approved by FDA (2006), Mannkind is 8 years behind (2014). "In 2006, the Dexcom (San Diego, CA, USA) SEVEN, the first real-time continuous glucose monitoring system, was approved by the FDA." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5298755/ |
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Post by sellhighdrinklow on Apr 16, 2018 21:15:13 GMT -5
The internet and financial pages/websites are all about fake news. This is straight forward, IMHO.
The wild wild west of the internet (fake news) is used to move markets in equities, including and especially, blue chips. It is ongoing, 100%+. Again, IMHO.
I recall DXCM when it was $4 and I was using the Dexcom 7. I had no idea that the receivers were replaced annually by the insurance companies. If I had figured that out, I would have bought the stock. Dumb.
MNKD is DXCM, 6 years ago or whenever it was. Stock wise.
JMHO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 11:35:49 GMT -5
Only took 16 years... What year are we in? And am not talking about dog years although each of ours feels like that long... From the time Dexcom's first generation of CGM was approved by FDA (2006), Mannkind is 8 years behind (2014). "In 2006, the Dexcom (San Diego, CA, USA) SEVEN, the first real-time continuous glucose monitoring system, was approved by the FDA." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5298755/ Hopefully we are not that far behind. If so, back into hibernation mode I go. See you at 60+/share in 2026. As far ole boy Spence. He claims to be unbiased. But, the ramptent censoring of the comments of his articles causes one to doubt SO and the overall points he makes. Me thinks he be reading now. |
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Post by tmann on Apr 19, 2018 12:20:32 GMT -5
If you can convince 8 to 10% of a population opinion shifts very rapidly. Thats because almost every one forms opinion based on an unconscious algorithm that weight opinions of others highly - this make sense because most of the time the majority opinion is correct and those who rely on it survived in greater numbers than those who did not.
If we create memes for Affrezza asserting its known virtues and ridiculing the more egregious slanders we can reach a large number of people.
Meme are not just words and picture, a sucessful meme is retained in memory, changes host behavior and self replicates. In other words, you remember to try Afrezza and spam your contact list with a sucessful meme.
Busy elsewhere ATM but will try to create some demos - the most important thing is that the message is true, and it assert the truth visually in an unexpected way.
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Apr 19, 2018 15:00:40 GMT -5
If you can convince 8 to 10% of a population opinion shifts very rapidly. Thats because almost every one forms opinion based on an unconscious algorithm that weight opinions of others highly - this make sense because most of the time the majority opinion is correct and those who rely on it survived in greater numbers than those who did not. If we create memes for Affrezza asserting its known virtues and ridiculing the more egregious slanders we can reach a large number of people.Meme are not just words and picture, a sucessful meme is retained in memory, changes host behavior and self replicates. In other words, you remember to try Afrezza and spam your contact list with a sucessful meme. Busy elsewhere ATM but will try to create some demos - the most important thing is that the message is true, and it assert the truth visually in an unexpected way. I would challenge the notion that merely creating something is going to mean it will reach large numbers of people. Most people will not view pharmaceuticals as being interesting enough to share on social media no matter how clever it extols virtues or ridicules slanders. We've had a lot of impressive or clever Afrezza content generated and put on social media, but it is lucky to break 100 viewers in general. |
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Apr 19, 2018 16:43:31 GMT -5
So here is SO's response and my suggestion as he insinuates that I avoided an invitation that I never did see: SO's reponse: He reposted my post and then stated: There is the FULL CONTEXT. As usual, you cast aspersions that simply do not feel with REALITY. You think you can "eat my lunch"......Nope. Not even close. From afar? Come meet me. Hec k, I put an invitation out a few weeks ago. I heard ZIP from you. Go figure. EOM I never saw the invitation (please direct me to where I might find it), although I actually thought of taking you up on the offer you made to Kevinmik though regarding the charity bet etc. with him recently. So with regard to your accusation of me lying or "hyperbole" as you put it with respect to the four physicians that didn't require any spirometry test from me let alone even mention it, here is my offer, I will put up the funds in a neutral spot for you to fly out to Las Vegas on my next visits with any 3 of my physicians (2 endos, 1 primary the other primary is no longer with the group provider). Why not just speak to them and the rep first hand rather than give any credit to 2nd and 3rd hand comments from Cafe Pharma. If anything I stated regarding the physicians or the rep is a lie or "hyperbole" you make the same contribution you mentioned to the following organizations, 75% to JDRF and 25% to ADA on Mannkind's behalf, I'm sure Al would have appreciated the philanthropic gesture Oh yeah btw, if Harlan, User, RS, and any of the others in the SO fan club wish to match it, well then the offer gets extended to them as well, you can have a "bro" weekend in Vegas...not sure I would be able to get all of you in to the patients room but I'm confident they would take your word for it. Again it's unfortunate that this is how I have to communicate with you but important enough that the truth and facts be available regarding your assertion about the MNKD reps. now here's is the response that never got published to "User 1" 's comment along with a response to his question about refills from same SO column: User 1 Comments (1474) |+ Follow |Send Message | Joey, why is your one anonymous MNKD rep a more reliable information source than 3 or 4 anonymous MNKD sales reps on Cafepharma? 17 Apr 2018, 01:53 AM Report Abuse This is the real live individual that helped me get Afrezza delivered to my doorstep, visited with my physicians, etc., can you prove that any of the anonymous posters on cafe pharma helped any patients or visited any offices? That's the difference between reliable information and some anonymous person or competitor commenting on cafe pharma. I offered to prove everything I have written is truth and fact, can you say the same?I use the product, it has absolutely changed and improved my quality of life as it has others. Posters on this board (SO article in SA) make statements from hearsay and non validated sources such as cafe pharma, all I did was give a first hand account to set the record straight. Regarding refills, patients are listening to physicians that don't know how or have taken the time to learn about properly dosing this fine insulin (as opposed to Vdex). My endo who has been prescribing it for awhile recommended my taking 8u at mealtime and if still above range a follow up dose of 4u an hour later. I'm fortunate to wear a libre sensor and can follow and adjust as necessary. Right out of the gate I learned you cannot have a set regimen like he was using as each individual T2 has different metabolisms and stages of the disease. So I would dose as necessary and since doing that my daily BG numbers have been within range for the first time in a long time I suspect that is one of the primary reasons for the drop off on refills from time to time, the new users aren't getting the right dosing instructions from their physicians and endos, without patients having the convenience of using a cgm or similar ie. libre then it would be a bit more difficult to monitor where they are trending based on different carb intakes and metabolisms. I explained this issue to the rep as well regarding the physician using a set regimen. When I went for my last visit the physician was very impressed and pleased with my 2.9 drop in just over 2.5 mos. on Afrezza, I informed him that if I stayed with his regimen it most likely would have improved but not to that extent so quickly. Hope that helps One question to me that stands out and more should be asking themselves: The topic should be not if and why sales reps are leaving and you saw my response to that but rather WHY would someone of Kendall's stature and background leave a comfortable and esteemed position with a global leader in the Diabetes arena to go to a so called "high risk" company with a so called "uncertain" future? WHY WHY WHY? It goes back to the other question never answered...why the short position was never covered at close to 100% gain only to increase to the most recent record levels? |
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Post by sportsrancho on Apr 19, 2018 16:58:15 GMT -5
That was the weirdest question, “Why is your anonymous rep more reliable?” Because she’s not anonymous!!
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Post by lennymnkd on Apr 19, 2018 18:25:58 GMT -5
later. I'm fortunate to wear a libre sensor and can follow and adjust as necessary. Right out of the gate I learned you cannot have a set regimen like he was using as each individual T2 has different metabolisms and stages of the disease. WORTH REPEATING
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Post by digger on Apr 19, 2018 18:47:41 GMT -5
So here is SO's response and my suggestion as he insinuates that I avoided an invitation that I never did see: SO's reponse: He reposted my post and then stated: There is the FULL CONTEXT. As usual, you cast aspersions that simply do not feel with REALITY. You think you can "eat my lunch"......Nope. Not even close. From afar? Come meet me. Hec k, I put an invitation out a few weeks ago. I heard ZIP from you. Go figure. EOM I never saw the invitation (please direct me to where I might find it), although I actually thought of taking you up on the offer you made to Kevinmik though regarding the charity bet etc. with him recently. So with regard to your accusation of me lying or "hyperbole" as you put it with respect to the four physicians that didn't require any spirometry test from me let alone even mention it, here is my offer, I will put up the funds in a neutral spot for you to fly out to Las Vegas on my next visits with any 3 of my physicians (2 endos, 1 primary the other primary is no longer with the group provider). Why not just speak to them and the rep first hand rather than give any credit to 2nd and 3rd hand comments from Cafe Pharma. If anything I stated regarding the physicians or the rep is a lie or "hyperbole" you make the same contribution you mentioned to the following organizations, 75% to JDRF and 25% to ADA on Mannkind's behalf, I'm sure Al would have appreciated the philanthropic gesture Oh yeah btw, if Harlan, User, RS, and any of the others in the SO fan club wish to match it, well then the offer gets extended to them as well, you can have a "bro" weekend in Vegas...not sure I would be able to get all of you in to the patients room but I'm confident they would take your word for it. Again it's unfortunate that this is how I have to communicate with you but important enough that the truth and facts be available regarding your assertion about the MNKD reps. Who are the physicians? Are they on Mannkind's providers list? |
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