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Post by compound26 on Nov 9, 2015 10:56:48 GMT -5
Guys, here is what I received from a reader of my blog very recently. Another piece of real word experience of doctors prescribing Afrezza (and substantiates what docfrezza has been telling us):
"We recently visited my mother's endocrinologist and I inquired whether the doctor was prescribing Afrezza.
The doctor replied that [he/she] is enthusiastic about Afrezza and has some significant number of patients on it.
................[Note: for privacy concerns, I have taken out all references to, or indication of, name, address or gender of the doctor in the original message from the reader.]
Typical (existing patient) wait time for an appointment is several months."
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Post by compound26 on Nov 7, 2015 11:47:41 GMT -5
I simply want to hear about cash... In connection with this (cash situation of Mannkind), I recall at one point Mannkind put its headquarter in California up for sale? Does anyone know whether it was sold? I vaguely recall it was up for sale for a price of $10/20 M, can't remember correctly. Buy, hey, $10/20 M helps at this point. Also, someone posted that the upcoming $25M milestone seems to be related to certification of Sanofi's insulin as a supply to Mannkind, does anyone have any update on that?
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Post by compound26 on Nov 6, 2015 18:51:58 GMT -5
Yes, towards the end of the video, it says sponsored by Sanofi. So we saw four pieces of TV news report of Afrezza in the last two days. That's a good start. Hopefully that's also an inexpensive way of creating interest (and demand). Plus we also saw the video in Afrezza.com (meet Afrezza). Way to go! Sanofi and Elissa Violino (she sure is busy). www.afrezzajustbreathe.com/tv-news-report-on-afrezza/#more-151
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Post by compound26 on Nov 6, 2015 17:07:53 GMT -5
compound26... the suggestion is regarding buying MNKD's stake in Afrezza. If the deal would push $X dollars to MNKD bottom line for that stake, why would it be a larger amount that would flow to SNY's bottom line for buying their stake out? We're not talking about the profit SNY currently will get from Afrezza... just the incremental profit of buying MNKD out. The difference in SNY finances would be saving the profit share going to MNKD, which is estimated by MNKD as being 25% of Afrezza revenue. Where is there any additional amount (besides saving the milestone payments) that would accrue to SNY bottom line if they bought out MNKD share? DBC, I think it depends on how much Mannkind gets out of the total sales. Does Mannkind get $330MM out of $1.32B sales, or does it get $115M out of 1.32B sales. I hope it's $330MM, but you seem to think it is $115M. Hope we can at least get the $115M profit soon.
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Post by compound26 on Nov 6, 2015 16:34:41 GMT -5
trondisc... I think it would be hard to justify $6B now to acquire the remaining 35% of Afrezza profit based on that 1.1 million patient pool. Let's say out of that addressable 1.1M, the argued they'd get 60%... that's 660 thousand patients. At $2000/yr that's $1.32B/yr. Using the MNKD implied 25% profit margin yields $330M in profit a year. MNKD share is $115.5M. SNY sports a 21 P/E. So by that calc it would be hard to justify more than about $2.4B (not even counting a discount factor for these sales being future)... if they could successful make the case to their shareholders that Afrezza would indeed capture a majority of that patient population. I suppose one could add in some of the unpaid milestone fees into that valuation as savings and come up with $3B. I'd be happy with that as a buy out. But doubt Al would. His time horizon is likely longer than mine (and he's 90) Though both of us believe the target audience is really much larger than 1.1M patients. dreamboatcruise, somehow I was under the impression that Mannkind's 25% is kindly of like a royalty rate. So if the total sales is $1.32B/yr., Mannkind's profit will be around $330M. In other words, I think Sanofi's profit margin for Afrezza will be much higher than 25% if sales is indeed $1.32B/yr.
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Post by compound26 on Nov 6, 2015 15:20:18 GMT -5
From the Sanofi Slide: "Commercial focus on 1.1m uncontrolled basal insulin intensification patients." I'm trying to think about this and would like other opinions. Is this Sanofi's way of trying to get Afrezza to move up a Tier? Is the new training in Vegas about this. Any thoughts on this? My understanding is that Sanofi (and probably Mannkind) has just adjusted their strategy after they got the data of sales from the last several months. Originally, I think both Sanofi and Mannkind were always mentioning both the insulin intensification patients (T1s) and insulin initiation patients (T2s) as their targeted markets, with them sometimes even emphasizing the second group as their core target market. However, as we have seen in the last several months, apparently, T1s are more enthusiastic about Afrezza than T2s, even though the overall population of T1s are much smaller. I recall this board has discussed this phenomenon. Probably T1s are generally more concerned about managing their BG and are more knowledgeable about the subject. I also think it is much easier to dial in Afrezza if you have a CGM. Most T2s do not wear a CGM, while many T1s do. In that sense, T1s appear to be an easier market for Afrezza (compared with T2s). Perhaps it is also easier for T1s to get insurance prior authorization cleared. If indeed this is an adjustment in their marketing strategy. I think this is the right move. Once Sanofi and Mannkind take care of the T1s market, it will be much easier for them to move to the T2s market.
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Post by compound26 on Nov 4, 2015 18:34:27 GMT -5
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Post by compound26 on Nov 4, 2015 15:22:07 GMT -5
Off topic: could Mannkind's market cap be 10 times higher if we have someone like Elon Musk to do all the PRs.
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Post by compound26 on Nov 4, 2015 14:54:41 GMT -5
Didn't they indicate 51 as the # of doctors? If they spoke to 51 then my bad. Still, the N that 51 represents isn't a sample size I would put a lot of stock in. How many endos and GP / Primary Care docs in the US? "Note current usage reported by our survey respondents is higher; however, our sample size is small (N=51) and it correlates neither with IMS data nor reported sales."
I view this as something positive in the report. Assuming they actually surveyed 51 physicians. 51 is not that a small number (notice that we currently only have around 90 physicians listed in Sam's Afrezza-prescribing physicians). So what did the analyst see? He saw " current usage reported by our survey respondents is higher; however, our sample size is small (N=51) and it correlates neither with IMS data nor reported sales." To me, his survey (of 51 physicians, if that is the case) suggests that current demand/consumption for Afrezza is picking up and therefore correlates neither with IMS data (which has been slow, but actually has recorded some upticks in recent weeks) nor reported sales (which only captures sales through 30 Sept.). And this observation is consistent with the information we saw in this post, " these past two weeks the PA request near doubled..." Considering that the DTC print ads started to appear in the beginning of August and Vegas training were done in Sept., I would not be surprised to see continued uptick in scripts in the coming weeks. Back to the RBC report, after seeing the survey results, the analyst completely ignores this apparently conflicting information (from his survey) vs IMS data and reported sale. If that's his treatment of the survey result, then why bother with such a survey in the first place.
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Post by compound26 on Nov 4, 2015 14:16:44 GMT -5
Nobody goes into a fight expecting, wanting or willing to accept the possibility of losing. Sanofi's diabetes franchise is in a fight for their dominance right now and they appear to be losing ground. I can't imagine them not leveraging the advantage they have over all of their competitors to win this fight. Agree. Sanofi should be very concerned now that Tresiba is approved by FDA. Per Matt's videos uploaded in the last couple weeks, it appears Tresiba has an edge over Lantus (and most likely Toujeo) and Tresiba + Afrezza is a better combination vs Lantus + Afrezza.
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Post by compound26 on Nov 4, 2015 11:13:30 GMT -5
Hi, members, do you know if the use of Afrezza by any of the participants in this study will be included in the prescription count? I don't know how this works. If it is, could it be that on one of those weeks, we will see our scripts jump a few hundreds because of this study? The study is supposed to start in October. Could it be this Friday or next Friday? blindhog1, you probably can shed some light on this since you are being included in a study. Recruitment is dome over weeks and months so no instant pop. No instant pop is fine. If the participants' consumption is included in the prescription count, that still helps.
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Post by compound26 on Nov 4, 2015 10:59:48 GMT -5
Credit: fofos2000 Efficacy and Safety of Alirocumab Versus Placebo on Top of Maximally Tolerated Lipid Lowering Therapy in Patients With Hypercholesterolemia Who Have Type 1 or Type 2 Diabetes and Are Treated With Insulin (ODYSSEY DM - Insulin) www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02585778Hi, members, do you know if the use of Afrezza by any of the participants in this study will be included in the prescription count? I don't know how this works. If it is, could it be that on one of those weeks, we will see our scripts jump a few hundreds because of this study? The study is supposed to start in October. Could it be this Friday or next Friday? blindhog1, you probably can shed some light on this since you are being included in a study.
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Post by compound26 on Nov 3, 2015 18:34:19 GMT -5
That's terrific! Nice job!!! Could someone also upload it to Youtube and then share a link? The TV stations often delete a video after a number of days. It will be a shame if after a few days this video is removed by the station and we do not have access to it anymore. You will notice that in my following post, I was able to link to a few TV reports about Afrezza due to the fact they were uploaded to Youtube. If I recall correctly, the original videos from their respective stations were all subsequently deleted from those stations' sites. www.afrezzajustbreathe.com/tv-news-report-on-afrezza/
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Post by compound26 on Oct 30, 2015 13:28:54 GMT -5
For what it is worth, here is the google translation of the article:
Enter measures on 15 November. The current market capitalization of the company stands at $ 1.5 billion, allowing a share to enter the TA-75 Index, TA-Biomed and other measures. A slight increase in market value may make the stock even Tel Aviv 25 Index.
The effect of this move has been felt on Sunday with a record turnover TA75 stocks and a decline of 0.66% in the index, against the market trend was positive. In an attempt to mitigate the impact TASE CEO announced that the first stage there will be no diminution of existing shares indices following the entry of Mankind . However, Mankind's entrance to the stock exchange in Israel is expected to make a mess in leading indices, and stimulate significant demand per share amounts editors from 300 to 500 million ₪ only the part of the ETF. Institutional investors are also attached to the indices will have to decide on the share of the company is foreign to them.
Let's start from the end:
Company Mankind landed in Tel Aviv when it is in trouble financially, and the only product that has - inhaler insulin - already marketed by its partner Sanofi in February this year is growing slowly. The market of insulin indeed huge, but highly competitive and did not seem to have ventilator insulin of Mankind clinical benefit on the faces competing with insulin injections beyond fear that some patients of syringe stabbings.
We believe that a company value of $ 1.5 billion taking into account an optimistic scenario much about sales potential of the inhaler, and does not reflect the commercial risk exists only product of the company, the strategic risk eliminate the likelihood of agreement with Sanofi and financial risk inherent in the volume of low cash and Peripherals high debt, while significant cash flows yet to appear on the horizon.
If the inhaler will eventually become a huge success Mankind will earn big, but in the meantime what greater is the risk.
Who, Mankind?
Company Mankind (MannKind), that is unknown to investors in Israel, specializes in inhalers introduction of drugs through the respiratory system, with a single product inhaler insulin (AFREZZA) approved for the treatment of patients with diabetes and was launched earlier this year by Sanofi. Sales at this stage is still very low and does not manifest reflected in revenue.
An initial indication of what people think the stock of Mankind Wall Straight can be learned through the volume of short positions stands at 45% of the floating shares. Also according to data compiled by Bloomberg only three out of nine analysts covering the stock recommend the stock Kenya. Bottom line, the receipt of approval from the FDA about a year and a quarter of Mankind's stock has lost about two-thirds of its value.
The main question to be asked - why Mankind must fly so far and land precisely B"flntt Tel Aviv "? What Israel is searching for her missing Wall straight?
To try to answer the questions need to understand what the company does Mankind, especially acknowledge the company's flagship product AFREZZA, the Company's collaboration with pharmaceutical giant Sanofi and of course the financial situation.
The company's flagship product, an insulin inhaler immediate treatment (Rapid Acting), received in June 2014 FDA approval for marketing as a treatment for patients with type 1 diabetes and type 2 insulin dose in need of closely meals, to prevent the sharp rise in blood sugar levels. The face is a revolutionary product obviate the use of insulin injectors immediate treatment, and has tremendous sales potential for a huge and growing market, as of 2014 was $ 24 billion in sales per year worldwide. Although insulin market is very competitive, but all products are direct injection or pump. Only in the category of immediate-release insulin products, there have been three major products: Novolog (Novo), Humalog (Lilly) and Apidra (Sanofi).
Mankind's product was launched in February 2015 by Sanofi. At this time the launch progresses slowly, with the second quarter of 2015 sales of the inhaler were only $ 2.2 million. During the third quarter, Sanofi launched a campaign to aggressive marketing and advertising, the fruits of which we will see, if at all, only after the publication of quarterly results.
Importantly inhaler of Mankind is not the first attempt to launch the Ainsoliin inhaler. About 10 years ago, Pfizer competitor launched a similar product named Exubera, but less than two years after launch, with disappointing sales rate of 12 million a year, Pfizer pulled the product from the market on the grounds' that the product failed and was not accepted as a treatment for diabetes patients or among doctors ". Analyzing the reasons for the failure were several points including: the cumbersome size of the facility, the inability to accurately dose inhaled insulin incoming and fear of the side effects, especially the rise in the incidence of lung cancer. Other companies also stopped the development of inhaled insulin, such as Eli Lilly, despite her inhaler was smaller and easier to use.
The weak sales pace of Mankind's new inhaler, AFREZZA, can attest to that Sanofi may have encountered problems similar to the problems encountered Pfizer. Despite improved inhaler
Mankind much smaller and user-friendly, some problems still exist. The product has few side effects not unique for the provision of insulin through the lungs, coughing, among other things, a decrease in lung function, and concern increased incidence of lung cancer. Respiratory system naturally would make small molecules of oxygen into the bloodstream, and is not built or designed to absorb large proteins such as insulin. FDA approval of the product emphasized that the product is not intended for use in patients who have lung diseases like asthma and COPD. It is also required to perform pulmonary function test (Spirometer), a test that could present a particular barrier against passage of insulin injection insulin inhaler.
We believe that the level of effectiveness of the treatment, insulin AFREZZA product no significant clinical advantage over injectable products. However, there are side effects associated with the provision of specific insulin through the respiratory system. Although the company is trying to paint their product clinical advantages over the competition, in the FDA refused to accept their claims and confirm the allegations Diagram of the drug. In our opinion, ease of use of the product and the natural fear of needles stabbing there will not be enough for a big chunk immediate-release insulin.
Sanofi could under the agreement to announce the agreement with Mankind from January 2016. There is concern that if the product launch phase will not rise, Sanofi does exercise its option to exit the agreement, which of course would be a severe blow to Mankind. Reinforcing concerns can also get the deal structure with Sanofi signed after completion of the clinical development and approval from the FDA. The agreement includes the distribution of profits (and losses), Mankind's share is only 35%, plus milestones payments totaling only 725 million dollars, mainly related to sales volume. We believe that the structure of the agreement and its terms indicate that Sanofi concerns about the commercial potential of the product and Sanofi's desire to participate Mankind company with high commercial risk that product. If the inhaler will eventually become a huge success Mankind will earn big, but in the meantime what greater is the risk.
The company's financial situation is problematic, as the dwindling cash reserves can not serve in the debt and expenditures of the company. How difficult the situation can be seen only after the publication of the reports of the third quarter, which is expected early November. At the end of the second quarter were $ 107 million, of which the Company used $ 50 million as reimbursement of debt holders in addition to the current cash burn rate. We believe that cash reserves expected to be approximately $ 30 million alone, the amount of which can hold a maximum two quarters the Company and the Company will have to raise capital in the immediate term.
Steven Tepper, pharma and biotech analyst at the IBI Investment House
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Post by compound26 on Oct 29, 2015 19:02:53 GMT -5
This mornings FBG was 89.
OK I'm convinced on the dosing 10 minutes after starting a meal. It appears to be the ticket. I read a post on YMB about a guy that waited 6 months for his ENDO to come around. His ENDO has prescribed to 7 others since his conversion. One of the things he is having him do is see a TRAINER. Excellent idea. blindhog1, you may find the following comment from Tudiabetes.org regarding timing of Afrezza dosing interesting: Today's results--- 84 before lunch, ate a salad, vegetables, and a Hawaiian chicken sandwich on a ciabatta bun (only ate half the bun because last time I ate a whole one I shot up pretty high). 8u at 30 minutes this time (delayed longer than usual because a lot of fat in the salad toppings and dressing). 84 at start, 92 at 1 hour. 107 at two hours.
[Observation: another piece of evidence suggesting that, for Afrezza, timing is more important than dosage. I also suspect that for any Afrezza user who does not see satisfactory results with Afrezza or who claims Afrezza does not work well with him/her, he/she probably has not found out the optimal timing of Afrezza dosing.]
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