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Post by peppy on Nov 10, 2018 22:52:59 GMT -5
No doubt there is enough suffering that we can empathize with. Just stating that the construction of the building and where it is, is less likely to combust because of what it's made of. Yes, this is horrible. In Northern California the smoke is almost as thick and toxic as what we experienced in the fire last year. Schools are closed and people advised to Not go outside. It's ugly out there. Best of luck to everyone whose lives are affected by what is becoming an annual event. Fall came a month early. The climate is changing; becoming more erratic and severe. 25% of arctic ice left. Here in Minnesota, I have been witnessing the first green house gas. Water vapor seen in our skies.  |
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Post by sportsrancho on Nov 11, 2018 8:37:25 GMT -5
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Post by sportsrancho on Nov 11, 2018 9:32:01 GMT -5
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Post by sportsrancho on Nov 11, 2018 9:39:46 GMT -5
@eatsleepbreathemnkd
11/11/18, 6:33 AM
@rooksleanne The area under evacuation order but was told Four Seasons hotel 0.5mile away from MNKD expected to resume operations by Monday
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Post by mytakeonit on Nov 11, 2018 19:25:31 GMT -5
Well I guess my Four Seasons room is okay. Whew !!!
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Post by sportsrancho on Nov 12, 2018 16:05:03 GMT -5
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Post by mango on Nov 12, 2018 16:12:57 GMT -5
Wonder if it would help if the city routinely sprayed some sort of fire retardant everywhere, like make it apart of the local community upkeep, like with paving roads and filling potholes or repairing stop-lights. Spray the fire retardant on lawns and city park grass and mulch, in trees, in ditches, etc. Something human and animal friendly and really small like an invisible mist, nano size. Does something like that exist? |
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Post by goyocafe on Nov 12, 2018 16:53:16 GMT -5
Wonder if it would help if the city routinely sprayed some sort of fire retardant everywhere, like make it apart of the local community upkeep, like with paving roads and filling potholes or repairing stop-lights. Spray the fire retardant on lawns and city park grass and mulch, in trees, in ditches, etc. Something human and animal friendly and really small like an invisible mist, nano size. Does something like that exist? It’s called water... |
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Post by cretin11 on Nov 12, 2018 17:11:42 GMT -5
Yes, or asbestos, but that's not recommended.
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Post by mango on Nov 12, 2018 17:14:52 GMT -5
Wonder if it would help if the city routinely sprayed some sort of fire retardant everywhere, like make it apart of the local community upkeep, like with paving roads and filling potholes or repairing stop-lights. Spray the fire retardant on lawns and city park grass and mulch, in trees, in ditches, etc. Something human and animal friendly and really small like an invisible mist, nano size. Does something like that exist? It’s called water... Nice one couzon. But forreal. To prevent these brush fires from burning over 85K acres. If residental and commercial and public areas had some sort of irrigation like system that automatically sprayed fire retardant during random brush fires maybe it could prevent this kind of stuff. California is similar to costal states with communities living in known zones with no flood protection and never building a levee. Some the best minds are out there. Gotta do something besides rinse and repeat no? |
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Post by sportsrancho on Nov 12, 2018 17:14:59 GMT -5
The fire chief was talking and he was just astounded, he said, “Even the ice plant is burning and ice plant it’s not supposed to burn!
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Post by xanet on Nov 12, 2018 20:25:15 GMT -5
Nice one couzon. But forreal. To prevent these brush fires from burning over 85K acres. If residental and commercial and public areas had some sort of irrigation like system that automatically sprayed fire retardant during random brush fires maybe it could prevent this kind of stuff. California is similar to costal states with communities living in known zones with no flood protection and never building a levee. Some the best minds are out there. Gotta do something besides rinse and repeat no? Neat idea, you might be able to provide some protection around communities. Maybe we need to rethink the problem entirely. I once spoke with an old forester from out West who said that our zero-tolerance of wild fires for the past century is a big part of the problem. In nature, fires burn up the brush and keep the understory more or less clear. Unless they were already highly stressed, the larger trees tended to survive. When we stopped allowing these brush fires, the brush grew, and subsequent fires quickly spread into the upper canopy. These fires are very difficult to contain. Obviously, when the land has experienced prolonged drought, anything will burn, but this is why we are now doing prescribed burns. We're taking a lesson from nature. I don't mean in any way to minimize the efforts of the people who have battled these fires for the past century. They made the best decisions they could and put in their best effort. That's how life is. We learn as we go along. All my best to those affected! |
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Post by mango on Nov 12, 2018 20:29:22 GMT -5
Nice one couzon. But forreal. To prevent these brush fires from burning over 85K acres. If residental and commercial and public areas had some sort of irrigation like system that automatically sprayed fire retardant during random brush fires maybe it could prevent this kind of stuff. California is similar to costal states with communities living in known zones with no flood protection and never building a levee. Some the best minds are out there. Gotta do something besides rinse and repeat no? Neat idea, you might be able to provide some protection around communities. Maybe we need to rethink the problem entirely. I once spoke with an old forester from out West who said that our zero-tolerance of wild fires for the past century is a big part of the problem. In nature, fires burn up the brush and keep the understory more or less clear. Unless they were already highly stressed, the larger trees tended to survive. When we stopped allowing these brush fires, the brush grew, and subsequent fires quickly spread into the upper canopy. These fires are very difficult to contain. Obviously, when the land has experienced prolonged drought, anything will burn, but this is why we are now doing prescribed burns. We're taking a lesson from nature. I don't mean in any way to minimize the efforts of the people who have battled these fires for the past century. They made the best decisions they could and put in their best effort. That's how life is. We learn as we go along. All my best to those affected! They still do brush fires here in MS all the time. I think you're onto something. And not trying to minimize anyone's efforts either, if it weren't for those people fighting fires, we'd all be shit out of luck. Extremely dangerous career, selfless work. Just trying to see wgat folks think can be done to help minimiE these incidents or prevent them. We can't be like the USDA and look the other way when cattle farmers set up shop next to the coast where hurricanes come eaxh year and then they abandon their livestock, rinse repeat. We need solutions. Cali has somw of the brightest minds, I know something simple is there. Maybe more controlled brush fires for starters. And R&D on a fire retardant capable of extinguishing fire like these. People need something more simple than a fire extinguisher for person use. I know someone has the solution. |
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Post by mango on Nov 12, 2018 20:39:33 GMT -5
Divert govt space exploration spending for a moment and concentrate efforts for problems here on Earth would be a great first step.
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Post by mango on Nov 12, 2018 20:45:16 GMT -5
The fire chief was talking and he was just astounded, he said, “Even the ice plant is burning and ice plant it’s not supposed to burn! That is insane. Crazy how hot they get |
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