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Post by babaoriley on Oct 1, 2015 13:40:44 GMT -5
Jack slip below the icy water in Titanic.
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Post by newmnkdinvestor on Oct 1, 2015 14:15:37 GMT -5
Actually I think that is a little more graceful then whats going on to MNKD. I am thinking Freddy Krugger teams up with Gozilla. However it doesn't help that all bios are getting destroyed.......
I am sure if Hilary didn't open her mouth and the market wasn't taking we would be in the 4's.
Timing of events certainly is not MNKD friendly.
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Post by mnkdorbust on Oct 1, 2015 14:23:35 GMT -5
You looked at EYES lately? It's been hit very hard as well. Down from a high of 24 to now 5.50 in less than a year.
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Post by irrationalexubera on Oct 1, 2015 14:27:53 GMT -5
was curious about EYES myself; absolutely no news other than the bloody market in the last few weeks, but seems to be bearing an unusual amount of the brunt. thinking about some calls there pretty soon.
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Post by 1 percenter on Oct 1, 2015 14:46:31 GMT -5
Jack slip below the icy water in Titanic. What is quite fascinating and something I have harped upon is that while the bad news piles up for Mannkind, the company continues to stay quiet on every front and continues to contradict itself based on prior statements months ago as sales remain flat and the medical community and insurance companies continue to put up road blocks. |
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Post by newmnkdinvestor on Oct 1, 2015 15:25:13 GMT -5
Jack slip below the icy water in Titanic. What is quite fascinating and something I have harped upon is that while the bad news piles up for Mannkind, the company continues to stay quiet on every front and continues to contradict itself based on prior statements months ago as sales remain flat and the medical community and insurance companies continue to put up road blocks. Sometimes I think they knew this was an up hill battle but if you explained the hurdles to investors ( the real deal truth of how difficult this will be) the stock price would have plummeted. There is just no way management is this incompetent and if they are we are all fucked. |
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Post by purge on Oct 1, 2015 16:16:06 GMT -5
To me it feels as though everyone on the inside of mannkind has given up. They don't even try to put up a fight.
Have they given up and are thy looking for employment in other places?
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Post by harrys on Oct 1, 2015 17:00:16 GMT -5
The scenario that worries me is the one where they are competent and we are all still fucked after Al decides he's had enough and takes this private for the sake of its survival. This investment rings a special bell with me as I was once cheated out of $500k by the Costa Rican government, the government affiliated bank foreclosed on an apartment building I had owned two units in before the builder had a chance to sell all the units and pay back the loan. Afterward as this was unfolding I told myself there was no way I could get so fucked, I reasoned that this couldn't be a conspiracy and I was crazy to think it. Six years later I'm out half a mill after being deemed a "speculator" by Costa Rican courts plus another couple thousand in lawyers fees (who did nothing) and somebodies probably living in my two units catching the waves on Jaco beach....
Moral of the story any level of corruption is possible and conspiracies aren't always conspiracies.
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Post by mbseeking on Oct 1, 2015 20:49:24 GMT -5
Think we are a bit frustrated in this recent period. I come to this place because there seem to be kindred spirits interested in an invention with wonderful potential and who can make intelligent comments. All the commenters on this thread fit that category in the past, but are clearly frustrated. But please watch your language. Don't demean what is happening here and, if nothing else, it is ammunition for the Shorts.
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Post by peppy on Oct 1, 2015 21:49:38 GMT -5
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Post by beardawg on Oct 4, 2015 13:16:00 GMT -5
The scenario that worries me is the one where they are competent and we are all still fucked after Al decides he's had enough and takes this private for the sake of its survival. This investment rings a special bell with me as I was once cheated out of $500k by the Costa Rican government, the government affiliated bank foreclosed on an apartment building I had owned two units in before the builder had a chance to sell all the units and pay back the loan. Afterward as this was unfolding I told myself there was no way I could get so fucked, I reasoned that this couldn't be a conspiracy and I was crazy to think it. Six years later I'm out half a mill after being deemed a "speculator" by Costa Rican courts plus another couple thousand in lawyers fees (who did nothing) and somebodies probably living in my two units catching the waves on Jaco beach.... Moral of the story any level of corruption is possible and conspiracies aren't always conspiracies. How does taking it private help survival? The story is good and all, but it could be entirely untrue. Link please. Even if it were, it means nothing. I am sure there are situations like that. Just because you can name a situation doesn't mean it will or is even likely to happen in this situation. The moral of the story is do you due diligence before investing. It's Costa Rica, and did you know the builder? Know the risks and their likelihood before investing. The governments in those areas are known to be real shady and laws don't have the same force as they do here. We have seen Al's track record. It doesn't in the least hint that he would lean that way. Just because you keep saying it does not make it true (beside the fact that it wouldn't even make sense for him to do it for the purpose you stated). |
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Post by harrys on Oct 4, 2015 13:46:01 GMT -5
The scenario that worries me is the one where they are competent and we are all still fucked after Al decides he's had enough and takes this private for the sake of its survival. This investment rings a special bell with me as I was once cheated out of $500k by the Costa Rican government, the government affiliated bank foreclosed on an apartment building I had owned two units in before the builder had a chance to sell all the units and pay back the loan. Afterward as this was unfolding I told myself there was no way I could get so fucked, I reasoned that this couldn't be a conspiracy and I was crazy to think it. Six years later I'm out half a mill after being deemed a "speculator" by Costa Rican courts plus another couple thousand in lawyers fees (who did nothing) and somebodies probably living in my two units catching the waves on Jaco beach.... Moral of the story any level of corruption is possible and conspiracies aren't always conspiracies. How does taking it private help survival? The story is good and all, but it could be entirely untrue. Link please. Even if it were, it means nothing. I am sure there are situations like that. Just because you can name a situation doesn't mean it will or is even likely to happen in this situation. The moral of the story is do you due diligence before investing. It's Costa Rica, and did you know the builder? Know the risks and their likelihood before investing. The governments in those areas are known to be real shady and laws don't have the same force as they do here. We have seen Al's track record. It doesn't in the least hint that he would lean that way. Just because you keep saying it does not make it true (beside the fact that it wouldn't even make sense for him to do it for the purpose you stated). I was referring to Wall Street wanting to destroy MNKD and not Al taking the company private when sharing my personal experience. Read up on what I've shared if you are interested: therealavenger.weebly.com/sonesta-one-jaco/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-sonesta-one-jacoThese things happen in the US daily... you are living in a wonderland if you don't believe that. The point of this board is to have intelligent discussion and each person has their own opinion and idea as to what's going on. My view that Al could take the company private is just that, an opinion! So do your own "due diligence" please and if you disagree share your reasoning and be done with it, don't respond to me on multiple threads with the same argument which is essentially "what you are saying is not true". The reason I'm still Investing in volatile equities after losing 500k at the age of 22 is because my intuition is correct more times than not and I've done very well with my own "due diligence". Good luck with yours and I mean that respectfully. If you are long, your success here is my success. |
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Post by afrizzle on Oct 4, 2015 17:54:24 GMT -5
It's hard watching the PPS beating but when I go back though my investment thesis, I find nothing has really changed. no one likes to be in the red but i for one believe this is primarily a timing issue. I believe there will be a worldwide launch,,that we'll get tier 2 after the requisite delay period, that advertising will have an effect, and that sales will inevitably take off. The patient investor, I believe, will be rewarded. It's just going to take some intestinal fortitude in the near term Don't let shorty get your shares  good luck to all |
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Post by beardawg on Oct 4, 2015 20:15:17 GMT -5
How does taking it private help survival? The story is good and all, but it could be entirely untrue. Link please. Even if it were, it means nothing. I am sure there are situations like that. Just because you can name a situation doesn't mean it will or is even likely to happen in this situation. The moral of the story is do you due diligence before investing. It's Costa Rica, and did you know the builder? Know the risks and their likelihood before investing. The governments in those areas are known to be real shady and laws don't have the same force as they do here. We have seen Al's track record. It doesn't in the least hint that he would lean that way. Just because you keep saying it does not make it true ( beside the fact that it wouldn't even make sense for him to do it for the purpose you stated). I was referring to Wall Street wanting to destroy MNKD and not Al taking the company private when sharing my personal experience. Read up on what I've shared if you are interested: therealavenger.weebly.com/sonesta-one-jaco/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-sonesta-one-jacoThese things happen in the US daily... you are living in a wonderland if you don't believe that. The point of this board is to have intelligent discussion and each person has their own opinion and idea as to what's going on. My view that Al could take the company private is just that, an opinion! So do your own "due diligence" please and if you disagree share your reasoning and be done with it, don't respond to me on multiple threads with the same argument which is essentially "what you are saying is not true". The reason I'm still Investing in volatile equities after losing 500k at the age of 22 is because my intuition is correct more times than not and I've done very well with my own "due diligence". Good luck with yours and I mean that respectfully. If you are long, your success here is my success. I never said they don't happen. Yes, things like this happens in the US, but just about every time they are with companies that promise instant wealth overnight, not established companies with established "owners" who have a very long track record for character. Also, forgive me if I'm not convinced by half a sketchy website. My view on your opinion is also an opinion, albeit one that I believe is more realistic. The reason i responded here also was because I usually look at the new posts and I just happened to see both times you posted your (slightly different) opinions in the two places, at different times. If you can express, I can rebut - in both places (IMHO, of course ). I was under the impression that the bolded part above was more than just "what you are saying is not true"; I gave reasoning why. I don't have to go into detail to explain his track record, the fact that it hasn't happened with his numerous companies in the past speaks for itself. Of course I can never prove a negative, so we can only go on what has been shown. Your entire opinion is rooted on a shaky foundation. You mistakenly equate Wall Street's shenanigans with the stock price, with a company's profitability. They could drive the price to $0, if that were possible, and it wouldn't matter at all on whether the company folded. The only thing that matters is if the company makes money. If they do, wall street can't keep it this low and can't cause them to go bankrupt (destroyed?). Name one company that is worth less (stock price wise) than the money it makes each year (or even 3 years). Every conclusion you come to after that foundation is unsupportable because the starting point is false. The reasoning you give for Al going private, is no reason at all; therefore I see no reason he will. |
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Post by harrys on Oct 4, 2015 21:18:40 GMT -5
I was referring to Wall Street wanting to destroy MNKD and not Al taking the company private when sharing my personal experience. Read up on what I've shared if you are interested: therealavenger.weebly.com/sonesta-one-jaco/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-sonesta-one-jacoThese things happen in the US daily... you are living in a wonderland if you don't believe that. The point of this board is to have intelligent discussion and each person has their own opinion and idea as to what's going on. My view that Al could take the company private is just that, an opinion! So do your own "due diligence" please and if you disagree share your reasoning and be done with it, don't respond to me on multiple threads with the same argument which is essentially "what you are saying is not true". The reason I'm still Investing in volatile equities after losing 500k at the age of 22 is because my intuition is correct more times than not and I've done very well with my own "due diligence". Good luck with yours and I mean that respectfully. If you are long, your success here is my success. I never said they don't happen. Yes, things like this happens in the US, but just about every time they are with companies that promise instant wealth overnight, not established companies with established "owners" who have a very long track record for character. Also, forgive me if I'm not convinced by half a sketchy website. My view on your opinion is also an opinion, albeit one that I believe is more realistic. The reason i responded here also was because I usually look at the new posts and I just happened to see both times you posted your (slightly different) opinions in the two places, at different times. If you can express, I can rebut - in both places (IMHO, of course ). I was under the impression that the bolded part above was more than just "what you are saying is not true"; I gave reasoning why. I don't have to go into detail to explain his track record, the fact that it hasn't happened with his numerous companies in the past speaks for itself. Of course I can never prove a negative, so we can only go on what has been shown. Your entire opinion is rooted on a shaky foundation. You mistakenly equate Wall Street's shenanigans with the stock price, with a company's profitability. They could drive the price to $0, if that were possible, and it wouldn't matter at all on whether the company folded. The only thing that matters is if the company makes money. If they do, wall street can't keep it this low and can't cause them to go bankrupt (destroyed?). Name one company that is worth less (stock price wise) than the money it makes each year (or even 3 years). Every conclusion you come to after that foundation is unsupportable because the starting point is false. The reasoning you give for Al going private, is no reason at all; therefore I see no reason he will. For the sake of others who actually want to read some intelligent insight here and not watch two people argue over the Internet, I'm gonna drop this right here... |
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