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Post by joeypotsandpans on Sept 15, 2015 11:50:10 GMT -5
I agree with this. At this point in his life money is not a priority to Al whereas his legacy of delivering medical solutions probably is. The fight was to get Afrezza out there and that is now achieved. At this point he probably thinks Mannkind should stand on it's own feet. The emotional attachment by some longs some times makes me question if I am on the wrong side of this. The amount of "new longs and investors" some times makes me wonder if they're on the wrong side as well ...if you consistently have to question your "investment" perhaps you'd be better off with a stable dividend paying stock and sleep better at night...of course that's if you don't wish to lend your shares for monthly dividends with this one...the options are out there for everyone and it's whatever "floats" your boat as they say
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Post by seanismorris on Sept 15, 2015 12:52:10 GMT -5
You should always question your investments regardless if they pay a div. or not.
I've had several CEO's of investments (stocks I've owned) flat out lie. You need to question everything anyone says and question their motivation for saying what they said. Being vigilant is the only way to survive in the stock market.
Crooks used to rob banks...now they are hedge fund managers, stock advisers, traders, CEOs, etc. If you don't watch them they'll take your hard earned dollar right out of your pocket.
"Buy & Hold" is fine, but question, question, question.
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Post by mssciguy on Sept 15, 2015 13:06:36 GMT -5
You should always question your investments regardless if they pay a div. or not. I've had several CEO's of investments (stocks I've owned) flat out lie. You need to question everything anyone says and question their motivation for saying what they said. Being vigilant is the only way to survive in the stock market. Crooks used to rob banks...now they are hedge fund managers, stock advisers, traders, CEOs, etc. If you don't watch them they'll take your hard earned dollar right out of your pocket. "Buy & Hold" is fine, but question, question, question. So true.... the big dividend payers are often cooking books, or issuing debt or stock to pay the dividends. Look at Bernie Madoff, look at Enron (aka "Smartest Guys in the Room"), many others including TST (thestreet.com, home of Adam Fauerstein and Cramer --- who issue dividends even though they lose money). Have listened to many conference calls in my time, and the most confident participants were often lying, trust me, I have taken my lumps and learned. Which is why I appreciate Al, Matt and Hakan's honesty even if they don't pander to us retail investors or appear less confident than they really are. Thanks for the reminder -- and also, we should remember, MSFT, AAPL did not pay dividends for decades...
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Post by newmnkdinvestor on Sept 15, 2015 13:55:33 GMT -5
The emotional attachment by some longs some times makes me question if I am on the wrong side of this. The amount of "new longs and investors" some times makes me wonder if they're on the wrong side as well ...if you consistently have to question your "investment" perhaps you'd be better off with a stable dividend paying stock and sleep better at night...of course that's if you don't wish to lend your shares for monthly dividends with this one...the options are out there for everyone and it's whatever "floats" your boat as they say Since I was a child I question everything in life. Isn't questioning things apart of doing your DD, it is for me. Longs blindly believe in MNKD (because of very limited user review) and anything that is written on the internet. It scares me some days that I am on the same side of this trade as they are. No one knows the future of this drug. Now I mean this with no disrespect. I am trying to word things better but that is not my strong point. You update the board that your SNY connection is feeding you information that makes you feel comfortable with your investment. I don't know you from a hole in the wall and while others find comfort in it, I question it. Its crazy to me that people consider that fact.
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Sept 15, 2015 14:04:22 GMT -5
The amount of "new longs and investors" some times makes me wonder if they're on the wrong side as well ...if you consistently have to question your "investment" perhaps you'd be better off with a stable dividend paying stock and sleep better at night...of course that's if you don't wish to lend your shares for monthly dividends with this one...the options are out there for everyone and it's whatever "floats" your boat as they say Since I was a child I question everything in life. Isn't questioning things apart of doing your DD, it is for me. Longs blindly believe in MNKD (because of very limited user review) and anything that is written on the internet. It scares me some days that I am on the same side of this trade as they are. No one knows the future of this drug. Now I mean this with no disrespect. I am trying to word things better but that is not my strong point. You update the board that your SNY connection is feeding you information that makes you feel comfortable with your investment. I don't know you from a hole in the wall and while others find comfort in it, I question it. Its crazy to me that people consider that fact. Perfectly reasonable on your behalf, the fact is that I personally know quite a few members of this board and actually the rep was introduced to me by one in particular that others know as well due to the fact that they might be able to help with insurance issues. Many if not most of the long time members here have done a thorough amount of due diligence and not "just believe what is written on the internet". Nothing is certain other than the two certainties in life, however most "cultish" longs are in the camp of what an old wise man recently stated "take care of the patients and the rest will take care of itself" ...I didn't read that on the internet, I heard that in a conference call
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Post by patryn on Sept 15, 2015 15:08:37 GMT -5
The amount of "new longs and investors" some times makes me wonder if they're on the wrong side as well ...if you consistently have to question your "investment" perhaps you'd be better off with a stable dividend paying stock and sleep better at night...of course that's if you don't wish to lend your shares for monthly dividends with this one...the options are out there for everyone and it's whatever "floats" your boat as they say Since I was a child I question everything in life. Isn't questioning things apart of doing your DD, it is for me. Longs blindly believe in MNKD (because of very limited user review) and anything that is written on the internet. It scares me some days that I am on the same side of this trade as they are. No one knows the future of this drug. Now I mean this with no disrespect. I am trying to word things better but that is not my strong point. You update the board that your SNY connection is feeding you information that makes you feel comfortable with your investment. I don't know you from a hole in the wall and while others find comfort in it, I question it. Its crazy to me that people consider that fact. I worry that I am on the same side of the trade as some people who equate short term stock price with long term prospects (not necessarily talking about you newmnkdinvestor). The amount of angst I see when the stock price drops even without a material event changing the long term direction of MNKD, which no one can predict reliably at this stage, makes me wonder if some longs are using money that should be going towards bills or other short term expenses. Of course now that I have changed my sentiment, I feel a lot better
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Post by tayl5 on Sept 15, 2015 16:31:13 GMT -5
I sense FUD in your Sentiment, o Short Pretending to be Long.
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Post by mssciguy on Sept 15, 2015 16:35:54 GMT -5
I sense FUD in your Sentiment, o Short Pretending to be Long. yeah.... this thread is going nowhere fast lately. Volume (almost all of it fake) has slowed to a trickle. I SAY THIS: Why isn't the top dog of the SEC an ELECTED OFFICIAL (obviously happy hour in my household as I harvested beaucoup mammoth sunflowers, to the dismay of the goldfinches who are furiously competing for the remaining native varieties). Have a great evening everyone.
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Post by nylefty on Sept 15, 2015 17:01:53 GMT -5
I SAY THIS: Why isn't the top dog of the SEC an ELECTED OFFICIAL Sounds like you have more confidence in the average American voter than I do.
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Post by mssciguy on Sept 15, 2015 17:17:56 GMT -5
Sounds like you have more confidence in the average American voter than I do. Yeah just promise them tax breaks, then give the tax breaks to the 0.01%. Works every time. Okay, I see your point
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Post by savzak on Sept 15, 2015 20:08:40 GMT -5
Sounds like you have more confidence in the average American voter than I do. Yeah just promise them tax breaks, then give the tax breaks to the 0.01%. Works every time. Okay, I see your point This will be fun...who should determine the grand-poo-bah of the SEC?
a. The STATE. b. The people. c. God. d. There should be no SEC.
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Post by mssciguy on Sept 15, 2015 20:30:03 GMT -5
Yeah just promise them tax breaks, then give the tax breaks to the 0.01%. Works every time. Okay, I see your point This will be fun...who should determine the grand-poo-bah of the SEC?
a. The STATE. b. The people. c. God. d. There should be no SEC.
e. GS, which as the CEO says, is doing God's work. Okay, maybe C then.
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Post by tonyz on Sept 16, 2015 13:42:51 GMT -5
As I remember, for the first SEC chairman they took the biggest crook they could find who knew all about manipulating stock prices and he made all the things he used to amass his fortune illegal. I may be oversimplifying here, but there's no way government bureaucrats or college professors can keep up with the guys who know all the tricks of the trade.
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Post by ishorr on Oct 6, 2015 15:14:45 GMT -5
Not sure if this is the right thread--but has anyone seen analysis from Nate Pyle recently? Wondering if he's keeping the faith. Thanks.
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Post by irrationalexubera on Oct 6, 2015 15:34:39 GMT -5
Not sure if this is the right thread--but has anyone seen analysis from Nate Pyle recently? Wondering if he's keeping the faith. Thanks. he is. just look him up by @natesnotes over on StockTwits and you can see where he chimes in on the various streams (today included.) but i do think it's been a bit since he's written a ThinkPiece on MNKD, if that's more of what you were asking.
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