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Post by sophie on Aug 6, 2018 17:47:14 GMT -5
Nah, don't pull me into that. I get frustrated by people on either side who make this board frustrating. Just wish this could be a place where intelligent and mature opinions can be openly expressed without harassment from either side. Throwing sand back at the person who threw it at you is what kids do in a sandbox. Not pulling you into anything. You just sounded a bit more level headed, that's all. If this board is supposed to be a pep rally for mnkd I guess I'm in the wrong place. I don't want a pep rally, but I don't want to start a civil war, either. Wish more people were willing to meet in the middle and discuss matters with civility. Diversity is a great thing and should be embraced as such. However, it takes effort from both sides to keep the peace.
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Post by morgieporgie on Aug 6, 2018 17:56:42 GMT -5
Not pulling you into anything. You just sounded a bit more level headed, that's all. If this board is supposed to be a pep rally for mnkd I guess I'm in the wrong place. I don't want a pep rally, but I don't want to start a civil war, either. Wish more people were willing to meet in the middle and discuss matters with civility. Diversity is a great thing and should be embraced as such. However, it takes effort from both sides to keep the peace. Yeah right, I don't want a war either. The thing is, on this board if you don't say totally positive things - people call you a short or block you. Haha, that's crazy to me, to not even consider what others say or do. A character flaw, actually.
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Post by uvula on Aug 6, 2018 18:10:02 GMT -5
One could say it is a character flaw to get upset if anonymous people you don't even know block you on a stock message board.
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Post by mnholdem on Aug 6, 2018 20:10:37 GMT -5
A staffer’s perspective: Given the title of this thread, I have a simple question (no replies are necessary). How many of you who have participated in this thread have actually read the Rules of this Board? You’ll find the link at the top of the home page. mnkd.proboards.com/thread/11/
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Post by mnkdfann on Aug 6, 2018 20:25:48 GMT -5
A staffer’s perspective: Given the title of this thread, I have a simple question (no replies are necessary). How many of you who have participated in this thread have actually read the Rules of this Board? You’ll find the link at the top of the home page. mnkd.proboards.com/thread/11/My bad. 8. Nudity and pornography. 8.1. Posters are not allowed to sit at the computer while naked.
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Post by falconquest on Aug 6, 2018 20:48:59 GMT -5
BD @liane liane mnholdem mannmade ashiwi otherottawaguy spiro Can we make some changes to the board? This board is supposedly a board for the longs. However, increasingly, there are shorts on this board posting all kinds of materials, while pretending to be longs. I am fine with any shorts posting here, if they disclose their position as being short. However, it is very disingenuous for them to pretend to be longs or making comments like they are the most altruistic people in the world with their sole interest being protecting us longs. Is there a way to add a checkbox to indicate whether one is long, short, or have no position, before one can posting any comment? I think this can help and while at the same time does not add much burden for anyone who wants to post here. Also this is pretty common in other places like SA and other forums. Although this will not prevent shorts from cheating, at least this serves as a record of something and hopefully will help people see how disingenuous their posts are. For reference, stocktwits has a choice of bullish or bearish where you can choose before you posting anything. But I still prefer long, short, or have no position as I believe action speaks louder than words. And I would prefer that choice to be mandatory for posting anything here. To a less degree, I think to indicate whether one is long, short, or have no position, on one's profile is also very helpful. Perhaps we can also make that a required box that anyone registering here as a member must check. I noticed that we already have the sentiment checkbox showing that. Perhaps we can make this a required checkbox that any member must make a selection and such selection is always included in the profile shown below one's avatar. I feel bad for Mannkind shareholders today. I would much rather see this company thrive. Unfortunately, denying the situation and the desire to only hear positive comments will not change the share price. As a matter of fact, I will go so far as to say that I believe there are very few "shorts" on this board at all. Anyone short this stock has prospered while unfortunately, longs have continued to lose money. I don't believe any comments or postings on this board make any difference to the share price. Think about it, if you have the kind of money to invest that could move the share price, are you going to check a stock message board before pulling the trigger? I doubt it. Instead, what I believe is there are a lot of disgruntled longs (along with many who keep the faith) that occupy this board. I just don't see how limiting the comments to those that are "feel good" and positive will lead to any other conclusion than what "the market" is telling you. I'm sorry and I really want this drug and Mannkind to succeed but history has been against them all along. Can Mike pull this company from the depths of despair? That's the big question now isn't it?
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Post by figglebird on Aug 6, 2018 20:52:31 GMT -5
Yes?
Yes!
Yes.
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Post by morgieporgie on Aug 6, 2018 22:46:04 GMT -5
One could say it is a character flaw to get upset if anonymous people you don't even know block you on a stock message board. That's exactly right, however that's if you got upset by it. Personally, I found it somewhat comical. Upset, uh no lol. I picture a kid sticking his fingers in his ears when he doesn't wanna hear mom telling him to take out the trash. Bahaha! Also, there's paranoia happening on this board yoo. They say "insanity is doing the same thing again and again, expecting different results". Buying a stock over and over and expecting it to go up year after year may do some damage. Very unfortunate.
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Post by sophie on Aug 7, 2018 0:28:15 GMT -5
There is no need to identify who is short or a pretender. Never mentions one's position = short Has a small core position but thinks stock is garbage = short Reads and posts on this board with no position = fairytale I keep a small position because I do see a lot of growth potential, but I keep a small position because the chances of me losing all of that money is a reality in order to reach that potential. I'd rather not tie up money in a bull market on a stock that has only been losing money since its inception. I have different accounts with different strategies. This one is in my high risk account that I use fun money to fund. By any objective measure, MNKD stock is garbage. I'm not sure why that hurts anyone's feelings or why that invalidates anything else I have to say. I merely see it as a statement of fact. I'm not attacking anyone or making up lies or FUD. I don't know how anyone can positively spin a chart that points down and to the right with a steep slope. I invite anyone to try if they want to. I'm curious to share in their creativity. Why am I a short for saying that I won't significantly increase my position until the stock shows signs of life? Why do I need to lose money in order to be considered a true long? If you go back and look through my posting history, I have been saying the same thing since I got here. During that time, I would have lost over 90% of my money had I gone in big early. Is that the requirement to be considered a true long? Or am I allowed to be objective, see that the mess is still in the process of being cleaned up, and wait until they're no longer on life support before opening up the sizable investment that I'm really looking forward to? Put a different way, what would cause you more stress in the short term if you didn't know the outcome- Losing 90+% of your money, or missing out on a small gap up when the stock starts to run? I don't know about you, but I sleep so much better at night keeping my money in stocks that go up and to the right while missing out on a small chance of a gap up while knowing I'll have plenty of time to catch the next wave. This stock will not gap up and stop if it's for legitimate reasons. It will keep running for a long time if it's ever to become anything worthwhile. Will you kindly point out anything I have said that is incorrect/FUD/or of those damned shorties? Look no further than the countless posts of people saying they bought more for more evidence for my argument. Go see how many likes those posts get. If membership requires that I lose a significant portion of my hard-earned money, then I don't want to be apart of the true longs club. I'm perfectly content sitting on the sidelines until the most opportune time to buy arrives. I wish good luck to all here.
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Post by buyitonsale on Aug 7, 2018 0:50:30 GMT -5
After careful consideration I must restate this definition:
Has a small core position but thinks stock is garbage = a talented but underachieving short that failed to follow his / her own investment thesis
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Post by Omega on Aug 7, 2018 0:51:34 GMT -5
Do you hang out on message boards of other 'garbage' stocks you own?
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Post by mcloven on Aug 7, 2018 0:52:21 GMT -5
There is no need to identify who is short or a pretender. Never mentions one's position = short Has a small core position but thinks stock is garbage = short Reads and posts on this board with no position = fairytale I keep a small position because I do see a lot of growth potential, but I keep a small position because the chances of me losing all of that money is a reality in order to reach that potential. I'd rather not tie up money in a bull market on a stock that has only been losing money since its inception. I have different accounts with different strategies. This one is in my high risk account that I use fun money to fund. By any objective measure, MNKD stock is garbage. I'm not sure why that hurts anyone's feelings or why that invalidates anything else I have to say. I merely see it as a statement of fact. I'm not attacking anyone or making up lies or FUD. I don't know how anyone can positively spin a chart that points down and to the right with a steep slope. I invite anyone to try if they want to. I'm curious to share in their creativity. Why am I a short for saying that I won't significantly increase my position until the stock shows signs of life? Why do I need to lose money in order to be considered a true long? If you go back and look through my posting history, I have been saying the same thing since I got here. During that time, I would have lost over 90% of my money had I gone in big early. Is that the requirement to be considered a true long? Or am I allowed to be objective, see that the mess is still in the process of being cleaned up, and wait until they're no longer on life support before opening up the sizable investment that I'm really looking forward to? Put a different way, what would cause you more stress in the short term if you didn't know the outcome- Losing 90+% of your money, or missing out on a small gap up when the stock starts to run? I don't know about you, but I sleep so much better at night keeping my money in stocks that go up and to the right while missing out on a small chance of a gap up while knowing I'll have plenty of time to catch the next wave. This stock will not gap up and stop if it's for legitimate reasons. It will keep running for a long time if it's ever to become anything worthwhile. Will you kindly point out anything I have said that is incorrect/FUD/or of those damned shorties? Look no further than the countless posts of people saying they bought more for more evidence for my argument. Go see how many likes those posts get. If membership requires that I lose a significant portion of my hard-earned money, then I don't want to be apart of the true longs club. I'm perfectly content sitting on the sidelines until the most opportune time to buy arrives. I wish good luck to all here. If you’re using your ‘fun’ money because you don’t want to risk losing everything in this last bit of bull market why are you so butthurt about people talking about incorrect/FUD/or of those damned shorties? It's 'fun' money after all no? Perhaps you may feel like you’re one of them when some are calling them out? I seriously doubt you’re hurting anyone’s feelings by talking crap about this stock because no one cares about your MNKD’s investment under your ‘fun’ money account. You’re talking charts and bull market whilst invested in a growing Bio Pharmaceutical Company as if this stock should perform like Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon or Alibaba. There will be dilutions, there will be unexpected results in trials, negatives and positives. I doubt you’re a short but you just bitch a lot and it truly is annoying af but it’s okay because I enjoy reading your bs. It's truly 'fun'. More 'fun' than my 'fun' money account. Good job for using only your ‘fun’ money and not losing over 90% of money in your ‘real’ account because you have different objectives with this stock than lot of us here. I applaud you for that. Also, I seriously doubt anyone bought more MNKD stocks to prove your bs point, I think you’re giving yourself way too much credit; and who gives a f about how many 'likes' they get. I think you’re way too sensitive to invest in stock. Stop writing essays about your bitchy attitude and go to bed already it’s late.
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Post by sophie on Aug 7, 2018 1:04:30 GMT -5
If you’re using your ‘fun’ money because you don’t want to risk losing everything in this last bit of bull market why are you so butthurt about people talking about incorrect/FUD/or of those damned shorties? It's 'fun' money after all no? Where did you get the impression I'm butthurt? Perhaps you may feel like you’re one of them when some are calling them out? Don't know who "them" are? I responded directly to a post I was included in. I have no guilt at all whatsoever. I seriously doubt you’re hurting anyone’s feelings by talking crap about this stock because no one cares about your MNKD’s investment under your ‘fun’ money account. A. How am I talking crap? B. You realize you spent time to respond to something you didn't care about? You’re talking charts and bull market whilst invested in a growing Bio Pharmaceutical Company as if this stock should perform like Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon or Alibaba. NO! I'm not the one who expects that at all. If I did, I'd invest much more. Exactly the opposite, my friend. There will be dilutions, there will be unexpected results in trials, negatives and positives. The former has been seen. The latter has not. Besides, results get published before medical organizations/academies/colleges make recommendations. There will be plenty of time between the two. I doubt you’re a short but you just bitch a lot and it truly is annoying af but it’s okay because I enjoy reading your bs. It's truly 'fun'. More 'fun' than my 'fun' money account. Glad I could entertain you! Wait a second... do you care or don't you care? You're confusing me now. Good job for using only your ‘fun’ money and not losing over 90% of money in your ‘real’ account because you have different objectives with this stock than lot of us here. I applaud you for that. Not looking for a pat on the back, but thanks. Also, I seriously doubt anyone bought more MNKD stocks to prove your bs point, I think you’re giving yourself way too much credit; and who gives a f about how many 'likes' they get. You're completely missing my point. Posts like mine get lambasted- when I make accurate statements, while those who keep throwing good money after bad get applauded and encouraged. I'm not saying I caused anything. Just think it's ironic that everyone is up in arms over facts while acting in direct opposition to them is not only encouraged, but expected. I think you’re way too sensitive to invest in stock. Stop writing essays about your bitchy attitude and go to bed already it’s late. Only words I've seen lately that are bitchy or have attitude are yours!
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Post by sophie on Aug 7, 2018 1:12:10 GMT -5
Do you hang out on message boards of other 'garbage' stocks you own? I actually don't follow any of my other stocks. The other ones I've picked are mostly large market cap or stable and growing and not high risk. They don't require as much attention because their charts go up and to the right consistently. Whenever I want to add more, I do some DD to see how the market is doing. MNKD takes a lot more work because there are so many things stopping it from succeeding. There's also a lot more potential here than in my other stocks, so I pay attention when I can because I want to catch as much of it as possible if it comes. I don't have a lot of free time, so this has been a valuable place to learn from those that spend their time digging.
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Post by sophie on Aug 7, 2018 1:22:28 GMT -5
After careful consideration I must restate this definition: Has a small core position but thinks stock is garbage = a talented but underachieving short that failed to follow his / her own investment thesis 😊 Nope... made more in my other stocks than going short MNKD would have gotten me. Any more ad hominem attacks? Cause I gave you plenty of questions to answer if you wanted to have a discussion instead of throwing stones... Your choice I guess.
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