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Post by compound26 on Aug 6, 2018 10:18:07 GMT -5
BD @liane liane mnholdem mannmade ashiwi otherottawaguy spiro Can we make some changes to the board? This board is supposedly a board for the longs. However, increasingly, there are shorts on this board posting all kinds of materials, while pretending to be longs. I am fine with any shorts posting here, if they disclose their position as being short. However, it is very disingenuous for them to pretend to be longs or making comments like they are the most altruistic people in the world with their sole interest being protecting us longs. Is there a way to add a checkbox to indicate whether one is long, short, or have no position, before one can posting any comment? I think this can help and while at the same time does not add much burden for anyone who wants to post here. Also this is pretty common in other places like SA and other forums. Although this will not prevent shorts from cheating, at least this serves as a record of something and hopefully will help people see how disingenuous their posts are. For reference, stocktwits has a choice of bullish or bearish where you can choose before you posting anything. But I still prefer long, short, or have no position as I believe action speaks louder than words. And I would prefer that choice to be mandatory for posting anything here. To a less degree, I think to indicate whether one is long, short, or have no position, on one's profile is also very helpful. Perhaps we can also make that a required box that anyone registering here as a member must check. I noticed that we already have the sentiment checkbox showing that. Perhaps we can make this a required checkbox that any member must make a selection and such selection is always included in the profile shown below one's avatar.
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Post by uvula on Aug 6, 2018 10:39:12 GMT -5
There is no way to verify anything so people who want to pretend to be something they are not can continue to do so even if we ask them to disclose their position.
A bigger problem IMHO are longs who get attacked and accused of being short for expressing honest opinions or facts that sound negative.
For the most part, members here are not the real problem and are not influencing the stock price. The negative articles and our very real financial situation are the real problems. Let's stop attacking each other.
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Post by tinkusr8215 on Aug 6, 2018 10:41:43 GMT -5
For the most part, members here are not the real problem and are not influencing the stock price. The negative articles and our very real financial situation are the real problems. Let's stop attacking each other. Well Said.
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Post by peppy on Aug 6, 2018 10:45:20 GMT -5
BD @liane liane mnholdem mannmade ashiwi otherottawaguy spiro Can we make some changes to the board? This board is supposedly a board for the longs. However, increasingly, there are shorts on this board posting all kinds of materials, while pretending to be longs. I am fine with any shorts posting here, if they disclose their position as being short. However, it is very disingenuous for them to pretend to be longs or making comments like they are the most altruistic people in the world with their sole interest being protecting us longs. Is there a way to add a checkbox to indicate whether one is long, short, or have no position, before one can posting any comment? I think this can help and while at the same time does not add much burden for anyone who wants to post here. Also this is pretty common in other places like SA and other forums. Although this will not prevent shorts from cheating, at least this serves as a record of something and hopefully will help people see how disingenuous their posts are. For reference, stocktwits has a choice of bullish or bearish where you can choose before you posting anything. But I still prefer long, short, or have no position as I believe action speaks louder than words. And I would prefer that choice to be mandatory for posting anything here. To a less degree, I think to indicate whether one is long, short, or have no position, on one's profile is also very helpful. Perhaps we can also make that a required box that anyone registering here as a member must check. I noticed that we already have the sentiment checkbox showing that. Perhaps we can make this a required checkbox that any member must make a selection and such selection is always included in the profile shown below one's avatar. additionally, I am thinking morgieporgie and tinkusr8215 are the same person. *I know I can be wrong.
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Post by mnholdem on Aug 6, 2018 10:54:45 GMT -5
ProBoards members have a "Sentiment" that they can update on their profile page. It's voluntary and we cannot force members to disclose their leanings on the stock.
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Post by tinkusr8215 on Aug 6, 2018 10:57:51 GMT -5
additionally, I am thinking morgieporgie and tinkusr8215 are the same person. *I know I can be wrong. You are wrong. Just because I answered his question with a link of mannkind filings which is the official share count as of ... doesnt mean I am morgieporgie. I thought many here would know to look @ 10Q for the outstanding share count.
I just happen to know where to look exactly to verify this information.
Mods can see the IP address
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Post by nadathing on Aug 6, 2018 10:58:54 GMT -5
There is no way to verify anything so people who want to pretend to be something they are not can continue to do so even if we ask them to disclose their position. A bigger problem IMHO are longs who get attacked and accused of being short for expressing honest opinions or facts that sound negative. For the most part, members here are not the real problem and are not influencing the stock price. The negative articles and our very real financial situation are the real problems. Let's stop attacking each other. I quit posting on that Twit board after being accused of being a short time after time. You cannot post a fact on that board without someone claiming you are short. Very much like the old Yahoo board. I appreciate the spirited discussions on this board. It is a great forum.
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Post by morgieporgie on Aug 6, 2018 11:15:34 GMT -5
BD @liane liane mnholdem mannmade ashiwi otherottawaguy spiro Can we make some changes to the board? This board is supposedly a board for the longs. However, increasingly, there are shorts on this board posting all kinds of materials, while pretending to be longs. I am fine with any shorts posting here, if they disclose their position as being short. However, it is very disingenuous for them to pretend to be longs or making comments like they are the most altruistic people in the world with their sole interest being protecting us longs. Is there a way to add a checkbox to indicate whether one is long, short, or have no position, before one can posting any comment? I think this can help and while at the same time does not add much burden for anyone who wants to post here. Also this is pretty common in other places like SA and other forums. Although this will not prevent shorts from cheating, at least this serves as a record of something and hopefully will help people see how disingenuous their posts are. For reference, stocktwits has a choice of bullish or bearish where you can choose before you posting anything. But I still prefer long, short, or have no position as I believe action speaks louder than words. And I would prefer that choice to be mandatory for posting anything here. To a less degree, I think to indicate whether one is long, short, or have no position, on one's profile is also very helpful. Perhaps we can also make that a required box that anyone registering here as a member must check. I noticed that we already have the sentiment checkbox showing that. Perhaps we can make this a required checkbox that any member must make a selection and such selection is always included in the profile shown below one's avatar. additionally, I am thinking morgieporgie and tinkusr8215 are the same person. *I know I can be wrong. Not only wrong, but suffering from delusions and paranoia as well. Maybe you should take a break. As far as who gets to post or be a member, I believe any long here who cannot handle criticism of management or just venting about results is suffering from mental illness and should take note of that and seek help. Again, just my opinion and I truly am long.
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Post by ilovekauai on Aug 6, 2018 11:16:03 GMT -5
The way I handle things here is to block. I have over 100 blocked on this board and that works just fine for me.
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Post by bradleysbest on Aug 6, 2018 11:16:31 GMT -5
I am long & down a whole lot. Sometimes I post to get something off of my mind since it seems like I will never recoup my investment. Being a MNKD shareholder has been a long, rough ride & hopefully one day we will see a profit! I think there is light at the end of the tunnel. I just hope it’s not a train! For those wondering.... NO I will not sell 1 damn share!
#FrustratedLong #InIt2WinIt
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Post by morgieporgie on Aug 6, 2018 11:17:54 GMT -5
The way I handle things here is to block. I have over 100 blocked on this board and that works just fine for me. That's a wonderful way to keep a closed mind!
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Post by ilovekauai on Aug 6, 2018 11:20:46 GMT -5
That's right MP, a closed mind to short propaganda. Cya!
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Post by sophie on Aug 6, 2018 12:38:06 GMT -5
The thought I get when I read posts like this is why have a forum at all if you’ve already made up your mind and nothing can dissuade you? Just stop following the stock altogether and let it ride. A rebuttal of you’re here to learn about the latest and greatest would be irrelevant if said news would be disregarded if negative. Are you really asking for a “safe space” for weeping longs? Some sort of emotional support group?
FTR, if anyone cares, I own a small core position that I basically just use a fidelity credit card to fund with cash back. I have been vocal about my belief that this is a horrible stock to invest in, as it doesn’t take much convincing to show it’s manipulated to high hell. I will wait until the company proves itself as having a sustainable plan to profitability.
I see no reason objectivity should be discouraged. I have been labeled a short many times in the past, to which I laugh. I am hopeful for the drug and the company, as I think both have a lot to offer. However, neither are the stock from which we get the board’s name- the three are separate entities. So while I am sure 2/3 are fantastic, I’m still unsure about the stock. Unfortunately, all 3 need each other right now. None can stand on their own. So I will wait to invest when I have certainty that the stock is not garbage. The company stands for all the right things, but without cash, wants don’t amount to a hill of beans. They need to start proving they can penetrate the market in a meaningful way. Otherwise, another reverse split and/or further dilution may be on the horizon. There is much better money to be made elsewhere until MNKD gets it all figured out. It won’t happen overnight. There will be plenty of buying opportunities.
Didn’t think I would keep going, but at what point should the “true longs” be held accountable to their words? I remember getting chastised for being one of the few who openly criticized prior management. Now these same people essentially agree with what I used to say, but now they’re sounding just as incoherent for round 2 of the same ‘ol. Sure, Mike seems like a much better CEO- much more organized and actually sounds like he’s put some thought into a plan, but that doesn’t mean his plan will work. He’s made progress, but I think if you could travel back in time, he would have been disappointed to still be sub-600 scripts. I vaguely remember a tweet he put out that investors would thank him someday for saving the company. The MNKD police patrol gave matt a heaping pile of crap for calling out bankruptcy. In retrospect, he was probably correct. Sure, Matt secured the SNY monies, but is there anyone here who thinks MNKD would still be around if Matt, or worse yet, Hakan were at the helm? Were these not the arguments that “shorts” brought up and got slaughtered for? The board has come way far down to reality in the time I have been here, thanks more in part to the shorts than the true longs, in my opinion.
So are we here to learn or for emotional support? Isn’t that what you’re really asking?
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Post by sportsrancho on Aug 6, 2018 12:49:40 GMT -5
I am long & down a whole lot. Sometimes I post to get something off of my mind since it seems like I will never recoup my investment. Being a MNKD shareholder has been a long, rough ride & hopefully one day we will see a profit! I think there is light at the end of the tunnel. I just hope it’s not a train! For those wondering.... NO I will not sell 1 damn share! #FrustratedLong #InIt2WinIt I was thinking about you yesterday, and will see you next year at the ASM! When I think about how many little old couples came up to me at the shareholder meeting and said, I read your posts on pro boards. I shutter to think what they must be feeling right now. What’s posted on here by the shorts may not affect the stock price but it’s very destructive. IMO
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Post by uvula on Aug 6, 2018 12:58:52 GMT -5
I hope those little old couples did not buy stock. That would have been destructive (so far). It is good for potential investors to spend time here reading positive and negative things. It may not be pretty but it is our reality at this point in time.
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