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Post by peppy on Mar 20, 2020 6:59:47 GMT -5
I think testing for the antibodies would be very enlightening. As for testing for the virus -in symptomatic people - absolutely yes. Asymptomatic - pretty useless as they can be negative today and positive tomorrow. People might take more chances if they think they are negative. Consider, adding, testing anyone with a low grade temperature. low grade starting 99.3 and 99.5 degrees F. that may be the secret. there seems to be a 5 to 7 day window of low grade temperatures prior to respiratory symptoms. |
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Post by falconquest on Mar 20, 2020 7:08:27 GMT -5
It's unfortunately all a preplanned strategy by the sick globalists in the world like Soros to introduce the virus, make a killing as shorts, destroy economies around the world, bring debt levels to an even more unsustainable level, cause panic and disorder, take away guns and freedoms, and further the agenda of the new world order (1 economy, 1 government, 1 religion). This isn't going away soon. A new ugly day is here unfortunately. C'mon, that's just radical, conspiratorial thinking. And yeah, I'm going to call it out whenever I see it. Regardless of political affiliation, yours is just crazy talk and has no basis in reality. |
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Post by winstonsmith on Mar 20, 2020 8:53:50 GMT -5
It's unfortunately all a preplanned strategy by the sick globalists in the world like Soros to introduce the virus, make a killing as shorts, destroy economies around the world, bring debt levels to an even more unsustainable level, cause panic and disorder, take away guns and freedoms, and further the agenda of the new world order (1 economy, 1 government, 1 religion). This isn't going away soon. A new ugly day is here unfortunately. C'mon, that's just radical, conspiratorial thinking. And yeah, I'm going to call it out whenever I see it. Regardless of political affiliation, yours is just crazy talk and has no basis in reality. ........it's definitely a conspiracy and it's definitely crazy. Look up "cognitive dissonance". It's not easy for some. |
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Post by peppy on Mar 20, 2020 8:59:38 GMT -5
I'll tell you my conspiracy theory.
decrease in SS, medicare and medicaid payments.
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Post by bkdmd on Mar 20, 2020 9:03:40 GMT -5
I think testing for the antibodies would be very enlightening. As for testing for the virus -in symptomatic people - absolutely yes. Asymptomatic - pretty useless as they can be negative today and positive tomorrow. People might take more chances if they think they are negative. Consider, adding, testing anyone with a low grade temperature. low grade starting 99.3 and 99.5 degrees F. that may be the secret. there seems to be a 5 to 7 day window of low grade temperatures prior to respiratory symptoms. I can't believe how many teachers, school administrators, high school kids, and college kids who have been on spring break. Three teachers here went to the middle east in fedruary. They came back sick. They went right back to school teaching because they didn't want to be inconvenienced with a quarantine or going to get checked out. |
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Post by itellthefuture777 on Mar 20, 2020 9:16:27 GMT -5
The rate of spread and death means we don't have the luxury of study it to death..14 years before release.. literally..just load Technosphere NOW with whatever it is that cures this killer and take it directly to the President..tell him..it's ready to go..and get it done! Save Mannkind it's in our wheelhouse..unmet need...fast..lowcost..move it!
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Post by peppy on Mar 20, 2020 9:18:08 GMT -5
The rate of spread and death means we don't have the luxury of study it to death..14 years before release.. literally..just load Technosphere NOW with whatever it is that cures this killer and take it directly to the President..tell him..it's ready to go..and get it done! Save Mannkind it's in our wheelhouse..unmet need...fast..lowcost..move it! Be careful where you place your trust. |
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Post by boca1girl on Mar 20, 2020 9:27:31 GMT -5
Where is all of the testing? I am alarmed when I hear of so many sick people going to the urgent care clinics and testing negative for everything, but getting no test for covid-19. Don't we need to start widespread testing? Don't we need to test everyone for the pathogenic molecules we know cause covid-19??? and testing everyone for antibodies so we know who has been exposed to covid already? I have talked to a lot of people who believe they had covid already. They were sick late last year or up into 2020 without ever finding out what was exactly wrong with them because they tested neg for flu, strep throat, etc, etc. All of this makes me think we are going to have an explosion. They better get those ventilators ready. I think you’re right, I believe it started in December ...at least I know a girl ( daughter of a friend) who had been on a trip to Italy who lives in Florida ..feels she and a bunch of others had it in December. I have a suspicion that I may have had it at the end of Jan. I got the flu shot and I rarely get common illnesses (flu, colds). But it started with a sore throat, then low grade fever and fatigue. I sleep for about two days, not eating much at all, then symptoms were going away on day 3 and I felt fine on day 4. Living in south FL, we are exposed to germs from around the world. What would surprise me is if I tested positive for antibodies after a relatively light illness. I do take an immune suppressant for an autoimmune disease so I would guess that I would have a severe illness with Covid-19. (My imagination is probably just running wild but Letitride also had a similar story.) |
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Post by mango on Mar 20, 2020 9:40:45 GMT -5
Viruses are only alive when they are infecting a cell, where they utilize the metabolic machinery of the host cell. Otherwise, they are metabolically inert. Just like with anything else, the life cycle of the virus can't occur in the absence of energy.
So, just like us humans, viruses use a combination of sugar burning and fat burning, and manipulates them in an efficient (yet sloppy) manner that allows them to survive. When the virus takes over a cell and reprograms it, it intrinsically makes a lot of excess free radicals., and cells have a variety of ways for dealing with that.
So, there's a lot of metabolic activity that is intrinsic to the growth phase of the replicative cycle of a virus is what I'm saying. These viruses require fuel to survive and we can disrupt the fuel supply source by consuming Cannabis and with our diet. It is the same principle as with cancer cells and how Cannabis disrupts the fuel supply for cancer cells to survive, so they're prevented from replicating and surviving and run out of energy and die.
The CB2 receptor is a potent regulator of immune cells. I'm keeping myself safe from the COVID-19 by consuming Cannabis daily, maintaining a healthy, nutritious diet and exercising. I'll continue to live my life normally, and I'll be outside most of the weekend doing the things I enjoy. After all, what is the point of living in fear?
Good luck.
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Post by ktim on Mar 20, 2020 9:58:57 GMT -5
The rate of spread and death means we don't have the luxury of study it to death..14 years before release.. literally..just load Technosphere NOW with whatever it is that cures this killer and take it directly to the President..tell him..it's ready to go..and get it done! Save Mannkind it's in our wheelhouse..unmet need...fast..lowcost..move it! Let's load it with a cure for cancer and heart disease while were at it. It could be one puff that makes you nearly immortal. Geez, a good inhaler is obviously the key to all of these things, and then it's just a small detail of what to attach to TS. Let's do it! |
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Post by mango on Mar 20, 2020 10:43:37 GMT -5
The rate of spread and death means we don't have the luxury of study it to death..14 years before release.. literally..just load Technosphere NOW with whatever it is that cures this killer and take it directly to the President..tell him..it's ready to go..and get it done! Save Mannkind it's in our wheelhouse..unmet need...fast..lowcost..move it! Let's load it with a cure for cancer and heart disease while were at it. It could be one puff that makes you nearly immortal. Geez, a good inhaler is obviously the key to all of these things, and then it's just a small detail of what to attach to TS. Let's do it! I realize you're just being sarcastic and believe this cannot be done. This is just some of the agents that are compatible with Technosphere Inhalation System. Notice that some of these agents are indeed for cancer. 8. The dry powder inhaler of claim 6, wherein the active ingredient is selected from the group consisting of insulin, glucagon-like peptide 1, oxyntomodulin, peptide YY, exendin, heparin, calcitonin, felbamate, sumatriptan, parathyroid hormone, growth hormone, erythropoietin, zidovudine, didanosine, granulocyte macrophage colony stimulating factor, lamotrigine, chorionic gonadotropin releasing factor, luteinizing releasing hormone, beta-galactosidase, exendin, vasoactive intestinal peptide, argatroban, anti-SSX-241-49 (synovial sarcoma, X breakpoint 2), anti-NY-ESO-1 (esophageal tumor associated antigen), anti-PRAME (preferentially expressed antigen of melanoma), anti-PSMA (prostate-specific membrane antigen), anti-Melan-A (melanoma tumor associated antigen), anti-tyrosinase (melanoma tumor associated antigen), and a combination thereof. |
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Post by ktim on Mar 20, 2020 10:51:05 GMT -5
Let's load it with a cure for cancer and heart disease while were at it. It could be one puff that makes you nearly immortal. Geez, a good inhaler is obviously the key to all of these things, and then it's just a small detail of what to attach to TS. Let's do it! I realize you're just being sarcastic and believe this cannot be done. This is just some of the agents that are compatible with Technosphere Inhalation System. Notice that some of these agents are indeed for cancer. 8. The dry powder inhaler of claim 6, wherein the active ingredient is selected from the group consisting of insulin, glucagon-like peptide 1, oxyntomodulin, peptide YY, exendin, heparin, calcitonin, felbamate, sumatriptan, parathyroid hormone, growth hormone, erythropoietin, zidovudine, didanosine, granulocyte macrophage colony stimulating factor, lamotrigine, chorionic gonadotropin releasing factor, luteinizing releasing hormone, beta-galactosidase, exendin, vasoactive intestinal peptide, argatroban, anti-SSX-241-49 (synovial sarcoma, X breakpoint 2), anti-NY-ESO-1 (esophageal tumor associated antigen), anti-PRAME (preferentially expressed antigen of melanoma), anti-PSMA (prostate-specific membrane antigen), anti-Melan-A (melanoma tumor associated antigen), anti-tyrosinase (melanoma tumor associated antigen), and a combination thereof. There's only so many different compounds you could combine in a single cure all cartridge. Let's think about leaving out the chorionic gonadotropin releasing factor... that one makes me nervous. But the important factor is that MNKD has the missing key that will force all other drug companies to partner with us. Your list alone means there are likely dozens of deals about to be announced. Oh, I suppose I should add one of these  |
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Post by harryx1 on Mar 20, 2020 10:51:29 GMT -5
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Post by porkini on Mar 20, 2020 10:56:58 GMT -5
So, in addition to gin and tonics we should be consuming Moscow mules out of uncoated copper mugs too? (tonic water = quinine, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinine) |
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Post by ktim on Mar 20, 2020 11:08:41 GMT -5
So, in addition to gin and tonics we should be consuming Moscow mules out of uncoated copper mugs too? (tonic water = quinine, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinine) Silver also is fairly potent viralcide... it might well produce clinically relevant results, but it has the nasty side effect of turning you blue, that is unless you've always dreamed of being a smurf. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyriaor google "papa smurf silver" That said I do sometimes use it topically for sinus infections. |
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