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Post by fisherman on Mar 16, 2021 8:00:51 GMT -5
Afrezza is $99 at Eagle Pharmacy: www.eaglepharmacy.com/ For a months supply. They can also help you get a prescription. |
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Post by agusta on Mar 16, 2021 8:01:49 GMT -5
@ Casper06,
You ask "what does it take to use common sense?" How about minimal income? I am on Obama Care as premiums are unaffordable for any other choice. Lost my doctor I trusted 4 years ago because he did not accept this insurance. I have not bought a new pair of shoes or clothing in the last 5 years - shop Goodwil last purchase. Widowed twice in my 62 years and have very little disposable income. Please do not judge or be so harsh.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 8:56:17 GMT -5
@ Casper06, You ask "what does it take to use common sense?" How about minimal income? I am on Obama Care as premiums are unaffordable for any other choice. Lost my doctor I trusted 4 years ago because he did not accept this insurance. I have not bought a new pair of shoes or clothing in the last 5 years - shop Goodwil last purchase. Widowed twice in my 62 years and have very little disposable income. Please do not judge or be so harsh. I understand your plight but you also need to be more assertive. There are options for low income individuals to obtain Afrezza. You will not know until you find a doctor to prescribe and let Afrezzassist help you. Many people with poor insurance coverage get Afrezza for $15 a month. Mannkind has a PAY CASH Option of $99 a month for a supply of Afrezza. There are options for you. But like I said.....Find a new doctor. He is not helping you. An A1C of 10 is damaging your body. |
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Post by cretin11 on Mar 16, 2021 10:37:27 GMT -5
@ Casper06, You ask "what does it take to use common sense?" How about minimal income? I am on Obama Care as premiums are unaffordable for any other choice. Lost my doctor I trusted 4 years ago because he did not accept this insurance. I have not bought a new pair of shoes or clothing in the last 5 years - shop Goodwil last purchase. Widowed twice in my 62 years and have very little disposable income. Please do not judge or be so harsh. Perhaps VDEX can help. I’m glad you posted here so sports could see it, as she can be an invaluable resource. You deserve proper treatment. Best of luck to you and please keep us posted! |
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Post by mikesmilitaria on Mar 20, 2021 11:20:55 GMT -5
When your A1C is 10 and you want to use Afrezza you still need injected Insulin once per day. At meal times Afrezza is substituted for injections.
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Post by sayhey24 on Mar 20, 2021 18:16:58 GMT -5
When your A1C is 10 and you want to use Afrezza you still need injected Insulin once per day. At meal times Afrezza is substituted for injections. Right now Agusta is taking no insulin and is only relying on whatever insulin her pancreas can make. Hopefully Vdex can get her a script for a Libre and they can her AGP. There is a pretty good chance that just getting the pos tmeal spike down to a normal level will keep her BG non-diabetic over time. Agusta may be needing 2 boxes per month from Eagle pharmacy and may need to manually split the 12us into 4us for second and third dosing. However the $200 sure beats the $400+ and will actually address the root issue being her body not making enough insulin for her body;s needs. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Mar 20, 2021 21:40:51 GMT -5
Where is Spiro? 😎
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Post by lakon on Mar 21, 2021 0:23:26 GMT -5
When your A1C is 10 and you want to use Afrezza you still need injected Insulin once per day. At meal times Afrezza is substituted for injections. Right now Agusta is taking no insulin and is only relying on whatever insulin her pancreas can make. Hopefully Vdex can get her a script for a Libre and they can her AGP. There is a pretty good chance that just getting the pos tmeal spike down to a normal level will keep her BG non-diabetic over time. Agusta may be needing 2 boxes per month from Eagle pharmacy and may need to manually split the 12us into 4us for second and third dosing. However the $200 sure beats the $400+ and will actually address the root issue being her body not making enough insulin for her body;s needs. Aside from the standard of care being suboptimal [wrong], mikesmilitaria (and the doctor) was spot on with the standard of care. Unless one is a Type 1 PWD, basal insulin has not been needed in most cases since Afrezza came to market. Unfortunately those doctors who only studied the current textbooks and standard of care missed the fact that Al Mann repeatedly pointed out. Basal insulin was never the medically correct treatment for Type 2 PWD at an initial stage of insulin treatment, which should be the first stage. The jury is still out on whether or not basal insulin is ever really needed long-term in most Type 2 cases, aside from the failures of the current standard of care with its resultant downward spiral. Obviously if the medical community takes too long to treat properly, they might do the permanent harm of preventing the body from bouncing back on its own insulin production. Of course, we do not know so we can always hang our hats on this cop-out, but what do we ever really know? The problem was that nobody could stabilize monomeric human insulin and self-administer it efficiently, and it was extremely unlikely to get compliance for 3-5 shots per day when experience showed poor compliance for even 1 shot per day. That's the history and cause of the misuse of basal insulin. There was not an alternative substituted prandial insulin that was palatable to patients, and apparently most doctors need a history lesson about WHY they treat the way they do. Present day in the presence of Afrezza availability, the doctors are actually mistreating in a medical sense (and they should know better were it not for political and legal defenses that protect them). Before Afrezza, the one-or-two-shot-wonders (basal), such as Lantus, created a gold mine for their respective Big Pharma bro's. Al's insight with Afrezza, at least in theory, should have replaced the entire Lantus, and similars, marketing to Type 2's, but alas, I am still dreaming of better days ahead when medical "science" returns from political science and theater.
I hope VDEX would use cases like this one to "invest" in people as spokespersons. Help this individual out for the rights to the person's story. Employ them. It makes for a helluva story. It is also hard for non-PWD to argue with someone who actually can say it [VDEX] saved my life... Here's how. IMHO, that's how VDEX GOES VIRAL, and DOMINATES MNKD MANAGEMENT outside of traditional sales. A traditional sales model will not work because too many "experts" are in fact pseudo-experts and pseudo-scientists who lack a thorough grounding in philosophy to understand how they are doing harm and breaking their oaths to do no harm. I digress.
Good luck!
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Post by edvarney on Mar 21, 2021 0:41:20 GMT -5
Thank You Lakon.
I believe you are spot on with your concept of what is right and wrong with the Type 2 diabetic...
Al Mann had it figured out and was all alone in the industry to believe the Medical Society was wrong about treatment with insulin.. I just wish we could have paid attention to his concept long ago and advanced it with trials to prove once and for all.
Currently, Vdex may just be the only hope for proving Mr, Mann's concept to treat type 2.
I pray that folks keep Al's original belief in mind as we go forward, its not too late..
I commend you for standing up and speaking out, few have done so.
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Post by sayhey24 on Mar 21, 2021 8:21:58 GMT -5
Lakon - Our last great hope to get real changes to the SoC - Dave Kendall - seems to have crashed and burned in his efforts. I am not sure why but making changes inside an "Institution" like the ADA without huge $$$ seems fruitless.
Hope is still out for guys like Bill to raise enough capital because IMO disruption to the SoC is going to need to come from the outside through successful, affordable, and competing programs like a VDex. The ADA is going to need to be hit right between the eyes to make any significant SoC changes reflecting afrezza use.
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Post by sportsrancho on Mar 21, 2021 10:26:32 GMT -5
I let Jeremy know about this.
We can do a telehealth appointment through our Kentucky office if you’d like to do that, DM me with your name and information and I’ll give them a special heads up. And we’ll get it taken care of❣️
(270) 852-1655 Owensboro Kentucky
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Post by sportsrancho on Mar 21, 2021 14:14:25 GMT -5
“ Poor experiences with Afrezza are worse than no experience. It turns off both patients and doctors. But one great experience will slowly lead to more. The key is the protocol.”
“We can take on her care and she’ll be amazed.”
~Bill/Vdex
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Post by radgray68 on Mar 21, 2021 15:06:53 GMT -5
This weekend my father-in-law is in the hospital losing his battle. Type 2 for the last 25 years, he's been riding blood sugars around 10 like way too many people. Shit his pants taking Metformin back in the day but it was cheap. Several different pills next. Then shots, sores, hypos, etc. He went in for just some toes to be amputated due to non healing diabetic foot ulcers. As a Rad Tech., I can tell you I X-ray too many patients for these and absolutely cringe to think it might be preventable. Al Mann thought so.
Over the course of the week, this man, not yet 70, has had not one entire leg, but two legs amputated and is in the ICU fighting infection and barely holding on. This, and many other not so nice scenarios play out if you do not get your sugars under control. The patient HAS to take some responsibility for their own health, yes, but I also don't believe this point is made firmly enough to the public consciousness from public health prescribers to doctors to diabetes specialists alike. Whatever needs to take place to get diabetics in a healthy range, needs to happen.
I wish you and all the wonderful people who struggle with this, much better success in getting much better care before the bad shows up. Sorry to be such a downer but I thought this story was applicable here.
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Post by sportsrancho on Mar 21, 2021 15:21:34 GMT -5
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Post by morfu on Mar 21, 2021 16:17:20 GMT -5
Sam Finta has a list of Afrezza prescribing MD´s: afrezzauser.com/afrezza-prescribing-physicians/and lists: Dr. Valerie Hadam MD, 5850 Landerbrook Dr #100, Mayfield Heights, OH 44124, (440) 646-2200 for OHIO, I have no idea how current that list is, but you might also check out his fb group |
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