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Post by me on May 9, 2015 18:16:37 GMT -5
OK, so here's my full buying history of MNKD, all cash, no calls, puts, margin, or anything else, with a weighted price of $5.5732. Does today's close suck for longs? Only if you sell (or are on margin). I know it's probably easier for me since I've been an investor for only 5 months, but in the end, I think most all longs will be happy. "No Ragrets!" (Well, maybe just a tiny bit for that 2/6 purchase!) Date Price 11/25/2014 $6.15 12/15/2014 $5.01 1/7/2015 $5.60 1/12/2015 $5.53 1/15/2015 $5.29 1/27/2015 $6.30 1/29/2015 $6.15 2/4/2015 $6.39 2/6/2015 $6.83 3/3/2015 $5.89 3/18/2015 $5.36 3/25/2015 $5.14 4/17/2015 $5.06 4/20/2015 $4.97 4/27/2015 $4.59 4/30/2015 $4.47 5/8/2015 $3.63 $5.5732 $5.4879$5.3552
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Post by me on Jun 9, 2015 9:20:35 GMT -5
Date Price 11/25/2014 $6.15 12/15/2014 $5.01 1/7/2015 $5.60 1/12/2015 $5.53 1/15/2015 $5.29 1/27/2015 $6.30 1/29/2015 $6.15 2/4/2015 $6.39 2/6/2015 $6.83 3/3/2015 $5.89 3/18/2015 $5.36 3/25/2015 $5.14 4/17/2015 $5.06 4/20/2015 $4.97 4/27/2015 $4.59 4/30/2015 $4.47 5/8/2015 $3.63 6/9/2015 $6.59 $5.5732 $5.4879 $5.3552$5.4529 Read more: mnkd.proboards.com/post/25114/quote/2286?page=3#ixzz3cZgw9Rnq
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Post by me on Jul 10, 2015 8:03:18 GMT -5
Date Price 11/25/2014 $6.15 12/15/2014 $5.01 1/7/2015 $5.60 1/12/2015 $5.53 1/15/2015 $5.29 1/27/2015 $6.30 1/29/2015 $6.15 2/4/2015 $6.39 2/6/2015 $6.83 3/3/2015 $5.89 3/18/2015 $5.36 3/25/2015 $5.14 4/17/2015 $5.06 4/20/2015 $4.97 4/27/2015 $4.59 4/30/2015 $4.47 5/8/2015 $3.63 6/9/2015 $6.59 6/11/2015 $5.67 7/7/2015 $5.04 $5.5732 $5.4879 $5.3552$5.4529 $5.4571
$5.4442 Read more: mnkd.proboards.com/post/25114/quote/2286?page=3#ixzz3cZgw9Rnq
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Post by peppy on Jul 10, 2015 10:42:27 GMT -5
removed attach.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 13:54:39 GMT -5
All I see is bunch of str8 lines I am a minion in stock charts sorry at least annotate for us noobs
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Post by nylefty on Jul 10, 2015 14:44:20 GMT -5
All I see is bunch of str8 lines I am a minion in stock charts sorry at least annotate for us noobs It's a meaningless chart, as most charts are. It shows that the stock price has gone down since early June. I knew that.
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Post by babaoriley on Jul 10, 2015 16:19:00 GMT -5
Possibly to you, it's a meaningless chart, nylefty, perhaps to iam2, it's a meaningless chart, but for those who know how to read charts, well... it's all very clear.
However, to me, it's a meaningless chart.
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Post by nylefty on Jul 10, 2015 17:50:06 GMT -5
Possibly to you, it's a meaningless chart, nylefty, perhaps to iam2, it's a meaningless chart, but for those who know how to read charts, well... it's all very clear. However, to me, it's a meaningless chart. "Moving averages," which are supposedly meaningful for some stocks, are completely meaningless when it comes to stocks such as MannKind. The chart doesn't know about doctor education, consumer advertising, fear of needles, insurance company tiers, word of mouth, social media, other uses for the technology, etc., etc., etc.
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Post by BD on Jul 10, 2015 18:09:55 GMT -5
nylefty, I think you miss the point of technical analysis. TA-ers don't care about the story, the financials, or in fact much of anything about the business side at all. They don't know what's going on with the company, and they don't want to know... that actually skews the analysis of the technicals! They may be wary of ER dates, solely so as to avoid being involved at all at that time.
I know that the picture of TA I paint runs smack into the "religion" of the efficient market hypothesis, but you don't have to be completely faithful one way or the other to gain useful insights from the TA way of looking at things. I happen to put a lot of weight into the moving averages, for any stock I'm involved in. YMMV...
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Post by nylefty on Jul 10, 2015 18:31:06 GMT -5
nylefty, I think you miss the point of technical analysis. TA-ers don't care about the story, the financials, or in fact much of anything about the business side at all. They don't know what's going on with the company, and they don't want to know... that actually skews the analysis of the technicals! They may be wary of ER dates, solely so as to avoid being involved at all at that time. I know that the picture of TA I paint runs smack into the "religion" of the efficient market hypothesis, but you don't have to be completely faithful one way or the other to gain useful insights from the TA way of looking at things. I happen to put a lot of weight into the moving averages, for any stock I'm involved in. YMMV... I'm quite aware that "TA-ers" don't care about the story and that was my point. Charting may or may not work when it comes to companies where nothing much has changed, but when it comes to MannKind the changes in the story overwhelm whatever value there may be in staring at "moving averages."
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Post by BD on Jul 10, 2015 18:41:20 GMT -5
But the reason they don't care is that the story doesn't actually matter, and there's truly nothing special about MNKD in that regard. Look at it this way: if you, and I, and all the rest of us here "know" that the trend is about to change dramatically as a result of DTC, physician education, etc., then much of the rest of the market can probably come to the same conclusion, and those factors should influence the PPS. Perhaps we're actually seeing that already. Based on that chart above (and today's close), we've just broken a downtrend line. That can be viewed as corroboration of what we've been seeing and hearing. It's all a bunch of data points. It's up to each of us to crunch them based on what has been known to work in the past.
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Post by nylefty on Jul 10, 2015 19:08:38 GMT -5
But the reason they don't care is that the story doesn't actually matter, and there's truly nothing special about MNKD in that regard. Look at it this way: if you, and I, and all the rest of us here "know" that the trend is about to change dramatically as a result of DTC, physician education, etc., then much of the rest of the market can probably come to the same conclusion, and those factors should influence the PPS. Perhaps we're actually seeing that already. Based on that chart above (and today's close), we've just broken a downtrend line. That can be viewed as corroboration of what we've been seeing and hearing. It's all a bunch of data points. It's up to each of us to crunch them based on what has been known to work in the past. The chartists have kept this stock down so far, which is good for me since I've been able to accumulate 4300 shares at ridiculously low prices -- prices far lower than this stock deserves. Some day Mannkind may be studied as an example of how meaningless charting can be when there's a story such as this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 19:13:17 GMT -5
But the reason they don't care is that the story doesn't actually matter, and there's truly nothing special about MNKD in that regard. Look at it this way: if you, and I, and all the rest of us here "know" that the trend is about to change dramatically as a result of DTC, physician education, etc., then much of the rest of the market can probably come to the same conclusion, and those factors should influence the PPS. Perhaps we're actually seeing that already. Based on that chart above (and today's close), we've just broken a downtrend line. That can be viewed as corroboration of what we've been seeing and hearing. It's all a bunch of data points. It's up to each of us to crunch them based on what has been known to work in the past. The chartists have kept this stock down so far, which is good for me since I've been able to accumulate 4300 shares at ridiculously low prices -- prices far lower than this stock deserves. Some day Mannkind will be studied as a perfect example of how meaningless charting can be when there's a story such as this one. Just ignore if you are not interested don't try to prove your way is highway
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Post by phantomfj on Jul 10, 2015 19:47:26 GMT -5
What many people fail to recognize about charting.......it is as much a study of human reactions as it is hard numbers! And, certain types of events become self fulfilling. simply because that event happens, and the herd follows those signals...ie cross a moving day average, RSI move over 70 or below 30............most of the people out there simply go with the flow. Anyone who follows a stock passionately (which is also a mistake, by the way) will think that the charts say nothing correct about THEIR stock, since they know it better that anyone else. If we (and I include myself, by the way) had followed the chart signals, we would have got out a long time ago and waited for the correct signals to get back in.......I don't know about you, but it would have saved me a bit of angst!
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Post by nylefty on Jul 10, 2015 19:50:59 GMT -5
The chartists have kept this stock down so far, which is good for me since I've been able to accumulate 4300 shares at ridiculously low prices -- prices far lower than this stock deserves. Some day Mannkind may be studied as a perfect example of how meaningless charting can be when there's a story such as this one. Just ignore if you are not interested don't try to prove your way is highway Is that an order? I answered a post from someone who wanted to know what a chart meant. My answers were questioned and I replied to those posts. Are you saying that no differences of opinion are allowed here?
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