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Post by steve on Aug 19, 2015 20:06:34 GMT -5
I don't post here much as at this time I feel I don't have much to say. I read a lot here and find it useful. Sometimes a little constrained but it limits the riff-raff. There are some really great posters here and I feel they cover it. A couple times I disagree but that's that.
We are in a waiting mode. I have confidence in the achievements thus far. I have confidence in SNY. I believe much greater things will come.. I believe in Sam Finta and the many users. This is a dog eat dog world and competing pharma's would love to kill this, imho.
Redhaw
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Post by papihoyos on Aug 19, 2015 21:11:04 GMT -5
I will no doubt get trashed for saying the following but it needs to said. I've been coming here for several months but my visits are becoming increasingly rare. That's because I'm finding it little better than the yahoo message board or any other forum that allows any and all anonymous user to post whatever he or she desires. As a result, you have a thread that begins with "Interesting posts on the Yahoo message board. If true, this is (as the Donald would say) HUGE!" and another entitled "For What It's Worth" Both threads are purely speculative, with no one really knowing the veracity of the person who started the discussion, nor the validity of the basic information being discussed. Nevertheless, this discussion will proceed for days upon days and page after page, with the endless flow of speculation over speculation and guesses about guesses. How useful is information or disinformation emanating from unknown posters with unknown motivations and all of the subsequent speculation? This board clearly has some very useful posters but it could be so much better. Having a few knowledgable gatekeepers would be immensely helpful. So, too, the requirement that posters have some concrete, verifiable information before being able to initiate a discussion. I haven't given this a whole lot of thought, although I must admit to having registered as a member out of pure frustration. To all those who created this board and work tirelessly to make it useful, you have both my gratitude and my apologies for the above critique. I guess you're not coming to the Moderator Appreciation Day celebration?
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Post by vestful on Aug 19, 2015 22:27:16 GMT -5
I don't post here much as at this time I feel I don't have much to say. I read a lot here and find it useful. Sometimes a little constrained but it limits the riff-raff. There are some really great posters here and I feel they cover it. A couple times I disagree but that's that. We are in a waiting mode. I have confidence in the achievements thus far. I have confidence in SNY. I believe much greater things will come.. I believe in Sam Finta and the many users. This is a dog eat dog world and competing pharma's would love to kill this, imho. Redhaw Well said, many people viewing with minimal to no posts that respect the time and effort of the moderators and many valuable members.
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Post by hankscorpio7 on Aug 19, 2015 23:03:41 GMT -5
Greg.. Greg.. GREG!! Don't go Greg.. don't go...
He complained about a thread called "for what it is worth"? Really? How boring would this board be if we could only submit verified content? Are the mods keeping this open so we can gush about them for making this a step up from YMB? Doing a fine job. Nice threads Trend- beats reading the weekly scripts.
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Post by Chris-C on Aug 19, 2015 23:39:41 GMT -5
dudley... we can blame the circumstances and Harry. He posts all the new info before anyone else can get a chance. We're all left either having to speculate or discuss what we ate for breakfast Scones are so nice right out of the oven... "for what it's worth". 8.1? Never saw that. Hold on... I'm back. DBC Since you brought up the dress code rule (which I had forgotten); I couldn't help but notice Rule 8.2, concerning the posting of suggestive photos and images. I have a question for the Mods and Board about rule 8.2. Please explain the phrase "or 3-D rendering or the liking thereof." Does this mean that if someone breaks the rules and posts a suggestive 3D rendering depicting an offending body part, other members are prohibited from liking it? It's good to be clear about these things before a thread gets out of hand, and I fear in the present climate of frustration and boredom, the risk is high for a titillating, rule breaking posting. Chris C
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Post by babaoriley on Aug 19, 2015 23:59:23 GMT -5
Gosh, mannmade, that post made about nine hours before this was eloquent, but so very long, and my time is extremely valuable, so, I just don't know, I mean, I couldn't just skim over it, cuz I thought you might eventually get to something important or valuable, like your five favorite BBQ spots in the Valley, but, to my chagrin and regret, it didn't happen. This board serves a purpose for most (and that purpose varies from reader/poster to reader/poster), but apparently it does NOT serve an overall positive purpose for all, and that's perfectly fine and normal. So, greg, bringing the old, wise phrase into present day, "you vote with your fingers." If this is not a place where, on balance, you want to be, then don't beat yourself up. But don't expect all the posts or even most of the posts to be to your liking. As for Trend, he's been around a long time, he's a genuine guy, and I think I understand where he's coming from, irrespective of whether I agree with him or I side with logic and good judgment (sorry, Trend, just funnin' with you). As for Spiro, well, yeah, we all skim over his posts, don't we? I just like to look at the photos!
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Post by babaoriley on Aug 20, 2015 0:02:15 GMT -5
The moderators of this board are all volunteers. They spend their time keeping track of "all" the posts which is not an easy job. We need to be grateful to them for keeping it "sane" if you will as we have all seen how YMB can get pretty dirty at times. I feel it's not just a message board but a family of sorts. We all have a common bond, "mnkd" and to be able to relate to someone about the stock, the ups and downs, is somewhat comforting in a way. There are many more posts as of late but you just read the post that interest you. I love this board and all the moderators. Keep up the great work. Coco Coco, you're such a company girl!
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Post by babaoriley on Aug 20, 2015 0:05:09 GMT -5
.02 - I find the board excellent, for the reasons of: 1. community 2. civility (thank you moderators!) 3. intelligent discussion A discussion forum, by its nature and intent, is first and foremost about discussion. Not gleaning free information, research and leaks. That's lagniappe. If you consider the amount of discourse we've all had around the last ERs/CCs, understanding note conversion, short interest .... Gee. Where else would I find that 24 hours a day, without torturing my family or getting called names? If it weren't for the digital age, we'd all either be meeting in the library over some very fine scotch, or possibly lonely in our madness. I would have only a fraction of the MNKD position I now hold if not for this board. Well, okay, greg, DBC apparently agrees wholeheartedly with you.
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Post by greg on Aug 20, 2015 0:07:06 GMT -5
I concur with greg. Much quantity, little quality. To each their own, I guess... as the membership count has gone up (closing in on 1700 now), surprise! We get more posts! So yes, there's quantity. However, I completely disagree about the quality. I think it's high as hell. I never cease to be amazed at the thoughtfulness that goes into so many of the posts I read here. There's little doubt in my mind, and I suspect not much in anyone else's, that members here pour their hearts out w/r/t how they're thinking/feeling about MNKD and Afrezza. As we are not privy to any of the byzantine business/financial dealing going on behind closed doors at MNKD and SFY, all anyone here can do is speculate, and we (the staff) do our best to create a conducive environment for such speculation. If honest, often out-of-the-box thinking is not your cup of tea, just go away, but don't smear the community here by characterizing the posting as having "little quality", because that's just wrong and condescending. I was planning on slipping quietly into the night but changed my mind because forums like this, with its 1700 members, do make a difference, sometimes a detrimental one. BD, I must say I'm extremely disappointed with your attitude. In your comment above, you say "If honest, often out-of-the-box thinking is not your cup of tea, just go away." Do you realize the ridiculous inconsistency in that one sentence??? You don't like our "out-of-the-box thinking" so we should just go away. Investors come to forums like this for many different reasons. For camaraderie, to commisserate, relieve boredom, get information, and assorted other reasons. In the final analysis, though, it's the desire to improve their financial health. In so many ways, this board isn't helping on that count. In a comment below, Joeypotsandpans, whose views and opinions I honestly value, along with Harry's and many others, suggests the short position has been deterred by this board. I would completely disagree with Joey, at least on this point. For weeks on end, we had a thread in which members were stepping on each other trying to help others lend more shares out to short sellers. I, who hadn't made a single share available to short sellers for years, transferred my entire position from one brokerage house to another to take advantage of the information gained from that thread. This while other members are crying about management not doing anything about the short sellers. Then we have trenddiver recount his endlessly discussed story about the hedge fund managed who is apparently a disciple of Jason Karp. Imagine if Adam Feurstein had published an article recounting a similar story. I'm guessing we would have trashed him endlessly for his devious efforts to undermine our confidence in MNKD. And if this weren't enough, trenddiver starts another ridiculous thread, again obviously designed to further undermine our confidence in Sanofi and the partnership. Again, if AF had authored the thread, he would have been attacked honestly and aggressively. On this board, we rebuff with kid gloves. We're not the ruffians of YMB and have to be nice and polite. Companies and politicians advertise for a reason...... whether we like it or not, the message sinks in. The same is true when short sellers and their surrogates spout their nonsense on the various forums, including this one. So grow up. You may find our comments wrong and condescending, but the amount of garbage that's posted on this board nullifies a lot of the quality comments and information that is also posted. I won't even bother to comment on your silly "all anyone here can do is speculate" remark. With that said, I will relinquish my membership.
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Post by babaoriley on Aug 20, 2015 0:13:33 GMT -5
Damn, greg, I sensed it all along, this board was established by shorts!! Oh, how clever Liane and BD are, it burns me that I didn't follow my instinct sooner.
By the way, you do make some good points.
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Post by hankscorpio7 on Aug 20, 2015 0:35:50 GMT -5
*sniff,sniff* what Greg is back? Greg is back, oh for the love of... Greg is back! Oh, no, NO! he's leaving- AGAIN! But he just came back...
Terrible points Greg. TPG! There have been times, here, where several members went to work on FUDsters. Unfortunately, they weren't FUDsters- they were concerned, educated investors who would have helped people limit their losses. Let go the hate, no extra pps for fanboys. Happy trails.
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Post by trenddiver on Aug 20, 2015 2:19:41 GMT -5
The moderators of this board are all volunteers. They spend their time keeping track of "all" the posts which is not an easy job. We need to be grateful to them for keeping it "sane" if you will as we have all seen how YMB can get pretty dirty at times. I feel it's not just a message board but a family of sorts. We all have a common bond, "mnkd" and to be able to relate to someone about the stock, the ups and downs, is somewhat comforting in a way. There are many more posts as of late but you just read the post that interest you. I love this board and all the moderators. Keep up the great work. Coco Coco, you're such a company girl! I think Coco needs to cozy up with Al again, maybe she can relight his fire!!!
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Post by trenddiver on Aug 20, 2015 2:24:54 GMT -5
To each their own, I guess... as the membership count has gone up (closing in on 1700 now), surprise! We get more posts! So yes, there's quantity. However, I completely disagree about the quality. I think it's high as hell. I never cease to be amazed at the thoughtfulness that goes into so many of the posts I read here. There's little doubt in my mind, and I suspect not much in anyone else's, that members here pour their hearts out w/r/t how they're thinking/feeling about MNKD and Afrezza. As we are not privy to any of the byzantine business/financial dealing going on behind closed doors at MNKD and SFY, all anyone here can do is speculate, and we (the staff) do our best to create a conducive environment for such speculation. If honest, often out-of-the-box thinking is not your cup of tea, just go away, but don't smear the community here by characterizing the posting as having "little quality", because that's just wrong and condescending. I was planning on slipping quietly into the night but changed my mind because forums like this, with its 1700 members, do make a difference, sometimes a detrimental one. BD, I must say I'm extremely disappointed with your attitude. In your comment above, you say "If honest, often out-of-the-box thinking is not your cup of tea, just go away." Do you realize the ridiculous inconsistency in that one sentence??? You don't like our "out-of-the-box thinking" so we should just go away. Investors come to forums like this for many different reasons. For camaraderie, to commisserate, relieve boredom, get information, and assorted other reasons. In the final analysis, though, it's the desire to improve their financial health. In so many ways, this board isn't helping on that count. In a comment below, Joeypotsandpans, whose views and opinions I honestly value, along with Harry's and many others, suggests the short position has been deterred by this board. I would completely disagree with Joey, at least on this point. For weeks on end, we had a thread in which members were stepping on each other trying to help others lend more shares out to short sellers. I, who hadn't made a single share available to short sellers for years, transferred my entire position from one brokerage house to another to take advantage of the information gained from that thread. This while other members are crying about management not doing anything about the short sellers. Then we have trenddiver recount his endlessly discussed story about the hedge fund managed who is apparently a disciple of Jason Karp. Imagine if Adam Feurstein had published an article recounting a similar story. I'm guessing we would have trashed him endlessly for his devious efforts to undermine our confidence in MNKD. And if this weren't enough, trenddiver starts another ridiculous thread, again obviously designed to further undermine our confidence in Sanofi and the partnership. Again, if AF had authored the thread, he would have been attacked honestly and aggressively. On this board, we rebuff with kid gloves. We're not the ruffians of YMB and have to be nice and polite. Companies and politicians advertise for a reason...... whether we like it or not, the message sinks in. The same is true when short sellers and their surrogates spout their nonsense on the various forums, including this one. So grow up. You may find our comments wrong and condescending, but the amount of garbage that's posted on this board nullifies a lot of the quality comments and information that is also posted. I won't even bother to comment on your silly "all anyone here can do is speculate" remark. With that said, I will relinquish my membership. Go see a therapist and soon, you are troubled.
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Post by ezrasfund on Aug 20, 2015 7:18:45 GMT -5
"BD, I must say I'm extremely disappointed with your attitude. In your comment above, you say "If honest, often out-of-the-box thinking is not your cup of tea, just go away." Do you realize the ridiculous inconsistency in that one sentence??? You don't like our "out-of-the-box thinking" so we should just go away."
I think poor reading comprehension may be the cause of many of these complaints. BD, I suggest the moderators ban all complex sentence structure.
On the other hand, perhaps the distinction between "out-of-the-box" thinking and "outside-of-the-box" thinking is confusing some. It is confusing me, too. I further suggest that all metaphors be banned.
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Post by jfl on Aug 20, 2015 7:39:24 GMT -5
I have wronged and condescended speculative yahoo-esque postings by a poor choice of words. It should've been "much quantity, little utility".
By the way, I think this forum is of high quality, thanks to BD's and Liane's policy of minimal censorship.
Okay, I'm off to an early appointment with therapist to heal my troubledness.
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