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Post by lakemann on Oct 3, 2015 9:57:50 GMT -5
I'm new, so stay with me on this. I have a reputation of thinking outside the box. My thoughts are this,, last call mnkd tells investors to not lend shares. Since we all know investors make money doing this, it seems to me this was SHORT bait.. Company showing fear of shorts, giving them confidence. Then the notes looked screwed up, and silence from mnkd. More SHORT bait, and confidence building. Now layoffs without a word from mnkd. More SHORT bait and confidence building... I think when the short interest is very close to the amount of shares that can be shorted, that mnkd will drop the bomb. Announcing something that shorts will fear and be caught off guard.. Al setting the hook sort to speak.. There are millions of not billions of dollars to make for shareholders. Institutions are adding slowly and probably lending to the shorts.. Everyone who holds will make a fortune.. Just my thoughts on this. Management is playing this great as far as I am concerned ... Pat
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Post by bradleysbest on Oct 3, 2015 10:08:59 GMT -5
Have no idea if your theory could be true...... But I like your style!
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Post by lakemann on Oct 3, 2015 10:29:03 GMT -5
Thanks, I don't think billionaires are the type of people running around in fear. Al has lots of experience with this type of thing . Look at the shareholders saying that company management is inept, come on mnkd is inept? SNY is inept? ... I'm not taking that bait,, but it adds to short confidence. I think if we put aside all of the stuff, scrips, pipeline, selling company and just look at this like a billion dollar game, then the bait is set. Now we wait till mnkd sets the hook.. And buy the way the invented of the hula- hoop didn't sell millions of them off the bat, but I still see them at toys r us... Al knows and SNY knows what they have, again billionaires are not stupid..time will tell if I read this right . And this particular trade is all about time. I sit patiently waiting for the day..and add to my position on every drop, just like the institutions, they also are in touch with the company, and if anyone thinks not is just kidding themselves, there's a lot of money in play here..pat
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Post by notamnkdmillionaire on Oct 3, 2015 10:42:35 GMT -5
So what you are saying is that when the short volume hits the limit of 314 Million shares, that is when Al will release the kraken to devour the shorts?
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Post by avogadro on Oct 3, 2015 11:14:41 GMT -5
Can't be, MNKD management dullards totally lack the imagination required for this scheme.
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Post by harrys on Oct 3, 2015 11:23:08 GMT -5
It is very unlikely that an accomplished billionaire in his 90s is planning a nefarious scheme to cause a short squeeze in the price of a publicly traded company... another common misconception I've seen around here is the thought that a short squeeze will benefit Al Mann, it won't. Al owns upwards of 40% of float if I remember correctly, he can't sell on a short squeeze like the rest of us, Al or Al's charities will benefit when MNKD reaches its conclusion. Many of us may not even fully benefit in the event of a short squeeze, your timing would need to be impeccable and there will be a very narrow window at peak as the same institutional shorts who rode it down will be riding it back up in the event of a squeeze and when they decide to cashout, the price will level out QUICKLY.
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Post by gamblerjag on Oct 3, 2015 11:50:22 GMT -5
lake.. not understanding this only because I never understood short scenario at buyout. If there is a buyout which may nor may not be what your are alluding to (drop a bomb).. how does additional/high short interest affect price. If MNKD sells for lets say 16 billion or roughly $40 PPS.. usually the pps goes to the buyout price within 10 -50 cents (give or take)and stays there until buyout is completed .... how does add'l short interest affect that. Does the high SI people having to cover propel the pps over $40? and if so is that short term until it drops back down to $40 buyout price ?
Of course when you said "dropped the bomb" you may have not meant buyout rather just big news.. like an additional partner, SNY buying in, or Techno use or European approval. Thanks to you or anyone for any clarity on high SI at buyout.
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Post by saxcmann on Oct 3, 2015 12:05:35 GMT -5
lake.. not understanding this only because I never understood short scenario at buyout. If there is a buyout which may nor may not be what your are alluding to (drop a bomb).. how does additional/high short interest affect price. If MNKD sells for lets say 16 billion or roughly $40 PPS.. usually the pps goes to the buyout price within 10 -50 cents (give or take)and stays there until buyout is completed .... how does add'l short interest affect that. Does the high SI people having to cover propel the pps over $40? and if so is that short term until it drops back down to $40 buyout price ?
Of course when you said "dropped the bomb" you may have not meant buyout rather just big news.. like an additional partner, SNY buying in, or Techno use or European approval. Thanks to you or anyone for any clarity on high SI at buyout. Where does Lake say BO Gambler??
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Post by alexer on Oct 3, 2015 14:39:03 GMT -5
I agree with Lake, this is a multi-billion dollar game in the long run, MNKD has an approved unique product that works. That alone worth $2b in today's market not to mention the Technosphere patents and licensing value. I think MNKD is a threat to big pharmas as well, this achievement could change many things in medicine, the way that Afrezza does its magic is truly unique and the result is outstanding. You think Novo isn't watching Afrezza?!
This stock is very similar to TESLA Motors, people thought an electric car manufacutrer won't be able to make it but look at what Elon Musk was able to achieve, now it's Al Mann's turn.
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Post by od on Oct 3, 2015 15:09:31 GMT -5
Management conspiracy? I think you have jumped-the-shark with that one.
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Post by gamblerjag on Oct 3, 2015 15:11:46 GMT -5
Hey, He doesn't say BO .. That's why I said I don't know if he meant buyout or just big news. I was trying to get his thoughts.
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Post by stevil on Oct 3, 2015 15:31:46 GMT -5
Plausible theory.
Highly, highly unlikely though. I don't think companies are vindictive like this nor waste much time making such plans when so much remains to be done. You're also forgetting to factor in the layoffs. That's about the only empirical evidence we have right now on the state of the company.
Also, MNKD isn't going to rocket into the 30s when the news breaks. Shorts probably won't get fried as badly as many here seem to think. I have no idea what I'm talking about with pricing, but I can't imagine MNKD can go much higher than 9-12 in the short term. Not sure why so many think there will be this massive short squeeze when there are so many docs that have yet to hear about Afrezza. It's gonna take time if it comes at all.
Please be careful y'all. This is the kind of thinking that is going to get you into deep, deep trouble.
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Post by notamnkdmillionaire on Oct 3, 2015 15:57:07 GMT -5
Plausible theory. Highly, highly unlikely though. I don't think companies are vindictive like this nor waste much time making such plans when so much remains to be done. You're also forgetting to factor in the layoffs. That's about the only empirical evidence we have right now on the state of the company. Also, MNKD isn't going to rocket into the 30s when the news breaks. Shorts probably won't get fried as badly as many here seem to think. I have no idea what I'm talking about with pricing, but I can't imagine MNKD can go much higher than 9-12 in the short term. Not sure why so many think there will be this massive short squeeze when there are so many docs that have yet to hear about Afrezza. It's gonna take time if it comes at all. Please be careful y'all. This is the kind of thinking that is going to get you into deep, deep trouble. Odds are very unlikely of a massive short squeeze because trading strategies are available to make sure that doesn't happen. A lot of people have been wrong about MNKD including me. I didn't foresee that Scripts would stay stagnant this long. I was betting on a steady increase which hasn't happened. As I stated before and will state again, MNKD continues to screw over their shareholders. I don't blame management because the company needs to survive but I do blame them for making us think good things are coming when they haven't. But watch when Monday comes around and there's a buyout....finally! HA!!! Btw, MNKD needs a Jim Harbaugh like CEO instead of that Al Mann puppet and putz Hakan.
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Post by harrys on Oct 3, 2015 16:06:29 GMT -5
Plausible theory. Highly, highly unlikely though. I don't think companies are vindictive like this nor waste much time making such plans when so much remains to be done. You're also forgetting to factor in the layoffs. That's about the only empirical evidence we have right now on the state of the company. Also, MNKD isn't going to rocket into the 30s when the news breaks. Shorts probably won't get fried as badly as many here seem to think. I have no idea what I'm talking about with pricing, but I can't imagine MNKD can go much higher than 9-12 in the short term. Not sure why so many think there will be this massive short squeeze when there are so many docs that have yet to hear about Afrezza. It's gonna take time if it comes at all. Please be careful y'all. This is the kind of thinking that is going to get you into deep, deep trouble. You are probably right with those numbers as any sort of short term squeeze is likely to be followed with selling off by those who have become fatigued and disenfranchised with the stock. Supply and demand - there will be more shares available on the supply side as price moves above magnitude 3 or so ($10+). It will likely be a VERY gradual rise as opposed to a massive squeeze. Trying to reign in the exuberance around here is a futile task, to much faith-based investing, there's abundant talk of a "seemingly eminent" $40-60+ mega short squeeze... possible? Maybe, but so is winning the lottery.
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Post by gamblerjag on Oct 3, 2015 16:26:51 GMT -5
still wondering though if there ever is a buyout with lets say SI over 100 million... does that propel the stock over the buyout offer? I've never seen that before. I've seen numerous times a buyout at lets say 30 bucks and it immediately jumps to 30... and hangs around that number until buyout closes. does SI make a higher price possible and why? Grazie
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