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Post by seanismorris on Nov 11, 2015 15:35:39 GMT -5
The Market is crooked top to bottom, and individual investors are just trying to survive. The smart thing to do, would be invest in ETFs,etc.
Nothing is going to change...get in and get out, hopefully making some money. Investing in stocks is gambling no matter how much research you do.
Investing in stocks is the last thing people should do when preparing for their retirement. Paying off the house should come first...the market is one bubble after another.
The sell off in MannKind was probably due to people investing on margin...which is really foolish. The Shorts love foolish people.
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Post by james on Nov 11, 2015 15:35:50 GMT -5
[quote source="/post/45890/thread" it appears this hasn't happened because there is a hidden interest at stake. It is no longer just about Adam, but now Jim Cramer, Elisabeth DeMarse, and Janet Guyon that need to do something. As a bona-fide media personality and the company supporting the individual, iussuing news based upon inuendo, rumor, and unconfirmed sources can only serve to incite. Whether you think a piece of information may be true or not, it is imperative that the reporter keep it confidential until it can be reasonably verified. It is certainly a situation of liable, the company and affected investors have grounds to sue. This behavior has to stop. You do, of course, know that stock manipulation is Cramer's stock in trade and he brags about it on a video which others may have a link to. He is probably hi-fiveing AF in the office. How do we take them all down? Cramer's a loudmouth. He can toot his horn and issue buy, buy, buy or sell, sell, sell all he wants and it's his opinion. Years ago, I listened to him for ideas before I wised up a bit. What Adam did is issue a public statement based upon incomplete and false reporting that resulted in price movement in the neighborhood of 20% - that's $200M of probable legal liability. It is possible for that sort of action to sink thestreet.com. Look at the stock price today. Symbol: TST. Don't be so sure they are happy in Crammer's office. |
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Post by Chris-C on Nov 11, 2015 15:44:17 GMT -5
Me too! And for those who might imagine that the SEC won't look into this, I've copied below a notice on the SEC site of their charges against a Scottish trader who tweeted misleading posts. AF better hope that he was not doing any trading when he tweeted, and that his employer also had its hands clean. Today's beat down could get interesting... SEC Charges: False Tweets Sent Two Stocks Reeling in Market Manipulation Criminal Charges Also Filed FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 2015-254 Washington D.C., Nov. 5, 2015 — The Securities and Exchange Commission today filed securities fraud charges against a Scottish trader whose false tweets caused sharp drops in the stock prices of two companies and triggered a trading halt in one of them. Full report here |
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Post by maddass98 on Nov 11, 2015 16:29:49 GMT -5
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Post by bullofwallstreet on Nov 11, 2015 16:46:54 GMT -5
i reaffirm my thoughts that Israelis set this up with GS to cause all this chaos , the writer of the first article in hebrew should be sued same as AF and the Street should be sued for allowing there worker right false statements and manipulate the stock.
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Post by kc on Nov 11, 2015 16:47:40 GMT -5
You do, of course, know that stock manipulation is Cramer's stock in trade and he brags about it on a video which others may have a link to. He is probably hi-fiveing AF in the office. How do we take them all down? Cramer's a loudmouth. He can toot his horn and issue buy, buy, buy or sell, sell, sell all he wants and it's his opinion. Years ago, I listened to him for ideas before I wised up a bit. What Adam did is issue a public statement based upon incomplete and false reporting that resulted in price movement in the neighborhood of 20% - that's $200M of probable legal liability. It is possible for that sort of action to sink thestreet.com. Look at the stock price today. Symbol: TST. Don't be so sure they are happy in Crammer's office. James, they've been pulling this crap for years and know how to get away with it. They just take it to the edge enough to get by. But you see how fast this becomes viral when you have so many people following the stock. There are major stocks doing billions of dollars worth of business and they only have 3000,or 4000 followers at best. This company has just on StockTwits 9800 followers. On seeking Alpha it's over 18,000 followers. So anytime message goes out so Its like a missile being fired |
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Post by cjc04 on Nov 11, 2015 16:54:04 GMT -5
Cramer's a loudmouth. He can toot his horn and issue buy, buy, buy or sell, sell, sell all he wants and it's his opinion. Years ago, I listened to him for ideas before I wised up a bit. What Adam did is issue a public statement based upon incomplete and false reporting that resulted in price movement in the neighborhood of 20% - that's $200M of probable legal liability. It is possible for that sort of action to sink thestreet.com. Look at the stock price today. Symbol: TST. Don't be so sure they are happy in Crammer's office. James, they've been pulling this crap for years and know how to get away with it. They just take it to the edge enough to get by. But you see how fast this becomes viral when you have so many people following the stock. There are major stocks doing billions of dollars worth of business and they only have 3000,or 4000 followers at best. This company has just on StockTwits 9800 followers. On seeking Alpha it's over 18,000 followers. So anytime message goes out so Its like a missile being fired Huh,,,, and all this time I thought I was a "smart guy" investing in a company ahead of the curve, knew something they didn't........... After a year of a confidentiality agreement I feel dumb and dumber everyday. |
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Post by james on Nov 11, 2015 17:13:07 GMT -5
Cramer's a loudmouth. He can toot his horn and issue buy, buy, buy or sell, sell, sell all he wants and it's his opinion. Years ago, I listened to him for ideas before I wised up a bit. What Adam did is issue a public statement based upon incomplete and false reporting that resulted in price movement in the neighborhood of 20% - that's $200M of probable legal liability. It is possible for that sort of action to sink thestreet.com. Look at the stock price today. Symbol: TST. Don't be so sure they are happy in Crammer's office. James, they've been pulling this crap for years and know how to get away with it. They just take it to the edge enough to get by. But you see how fast this becomes viral when you have so many people following the stock. There are major stocks doing billions of dollars worth of business and they only have 3000,or 4000 followers at best. This company has just on StockTwits 9800 followers. On seeking Alpha it's over 18,000 followers. So anytime message goes out so Its like a missile being fired KC, I understand what you are saying. In plenty of cases whispers are made and uncertainty is sown based on what could be considered opinion, you would have to prove that the individual had intent and received benefit to gain recourse. This specific incident as different. Adam issued a public statement which could have been avoided simply by taking the time to confirm facts and it caused material harm. That is liable and it can be prosecuted in civil court. I don't have individual standing because I did not sell, but plenty of folks did. In addition, the company (and by extention its shareholders) has standing as it affects the proceeds that may be received from the coming issuance. Complaining to the SEC is possible, but I don't know how helpful that is. I would urge you to get on MNKD to file suit - it may or may not succeed, but it would send a message to back off. Consider the share price of TST today. It began falling at noon when it became knowable that the report could be faulty. That's not a coincidence. TST has a market cap of only a $50M company and a lawsuit of this sort, successful or not would be a serious blow. It would not be a surprise to me at all if those wheels were already in motion. |
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Post by kc on Nov 11, 2015 17:25:39 GMT -5
James, they've been pulling this crap for years and know how to get away with it. They just take it to the edge enough to get by. But you see how fast this becomes viral when you have so many people following the stock. There are major stocks doing billions of dollars worth of business and they only have 3000,or 4000 followers at best. This company has just on StockTwits 9800 followers. On seeking Alpha it's over 18,000 followers. So anytime message goes out so Its like a missile being fired KC, I understand what you are saying. In plenty of cases whispers are made and uncertainty is sown based on what could be considered opinion, you would have to prove that the individual had intent and received benefit to gain recourse. This specific incident as different. Adam issued a public statement which could have been avoided simply by taking the time to confirm facts and it caused material harm. That is liable and it can be prosecuted in civil court. I don't have individual standing because I did not sell, but plenty of folks did. In addition, the company (and by extention its shareholders) has standing as it affects the proceeds that may be received from the coming issuance. Complaining to the SEC is possible, but I don't know how helpful that is. I would urge you to get on MNKD to file suit - it may or may not succeed, but it would send a message to back off. Consider the share price of TST today. It began falling at noon when it became knowable that the report could be faulty. That's not a coincidence. TST has a market cap of only a $50M company and a lawsuit of this sort, successful or not would be a serious blow. It would not be a surprise to me at all if those wheels were already in motion. James, I do hope that some of the shareholders that sold realize that they have standing and go after the street. That would be satisfaction for all of us. I was not smart enough to sell any shares but did buy some. I guess I need to get onto a 10 step addiction program. I seem to have a problem with buying shares is this the stock is dropped over the last 12 months. |
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Post by novafett on Nov 11, 2015 17:54:36 GMT -5
I wonder (I don't twitter or visit TS) if there is any public back lash on AF after his doling out more BS under the guise of ignorance?
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Post by suebeeee1 on Nov 11, 2015 17:57:30 GMT -5
I wonder (I don't twitter or visit TS) if there is any public back lash on AF after his doling out more BS under the guise of ignorance? Champagne from his employer perhaps? |
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Post by jefferson on Nov 11, 2015 17:58:54 GMT -5
I wonder (I don't twitter or visit TS) if there is any public back lash on AF after his doling out more BS under the guise of ignorance? Champagne from his employer perhaps? A raise. |
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Post by novafett on Nov 11, 2015 18:01:42 GMT -5
Personally i'd like to give him a swift kick in the... umm fill in the blank
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Post by sportsrancho on Nov 11, 2015 18:09:49 GMT -5
I wonder (I don't twitter or visit TS) if there is any public back lash on AF after his doling out more BS under the guise of ignorance? Oh yes! There was. Us girls went after him. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Nov 11, 2015 18:12:10 GMT -5
On Twitter, and we are still at it:-).
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