amuninni
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Post by amuninni on Nov 23, 2015 12:12:26 GMT -5
Friday everyone happy the resignation of Hakan, now all negative for Al CEO ... I do not understand. How to get out of this mess?
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Post by jurystillout on Nov 23, 2015 12:23:11 GMT -5
Did Matt resign too?
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Post by liane on Nov 23, 2015 12:26:16 GMT -5
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Post by suebeeee1 on Nov 23, 2015 12:34:03 GMT -5
Friday everyone happy the resignation of Matt, now all negative for Al CEO ... I do not understand. How to get out of this mess? The CEO Hakan Edstrom resigned. I'm sure that is what you meant. And, I think the majority of people think of that as a good thing, perhaps an end to the mess we have been in for months. There are threads that have been speculating what is next, or what SHOULD be next. While everyone has some interesting ideas, it is all speculation. Since we really know very little of what is actually going on (in the way of Technosphere deals or what Sanofi is doing on the insurance and advertising front), it would be nice to actually get some news from Mannkind directly. Bring us all up to date. Without real information, which MNKD has been deficient in providing us this past year, we are not able to really conduct due diligence. I'm in this right now only because I believe in Afrezza and Technosphere so much that I can't see it failing under any circumstances.
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Post by mindovermatter on Nov 23, 2015 12:42:27 GMT -5
Funny. I wouldn't be surprised if he has tried but Al wouldn't accept it. I applaud Matt for sticking it out. He has a very difficult and stressful job.
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Post by amuninni on Nov 23, 2015 12:42:29 GMT -5
Sorry, I write Hakan, I think Afrezza is super, It is the best for diabetes, but MNKD always more' down '. But I never sell I believe in Afrezza.
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Post by jeremg on Nov 23, 2015 12:55:49 GMT -5
Funny. I wouldn't be surprised if he has tried but Al wouldn't accept it. I applaud Matt for sticking it out. He has a very difficult and stressful job. I think Al is the only one you could expect to go down with the ship. If it were the case that Hakan jumped ship willfully, I wouldn't be surprised if it has crossed Matt's mind as well, but Matt seems much more involved and "there" than Hakan ever was. Hakan had to be told by Al to stop selling shares if I remember correctly, he was like a scorned child at that particular CC, I never trusted or liked him.
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Post by bthomas55ep on Nov 23, 2015 13:20:51 GMT -5
If we were to see Matt bail, then I believe that would be the red herring we could/should use to make a pivotal investment decision. Right now, with Al back at the reigns, any number of things could be agreed to that would improve the current predicament. If Matt were to walk, that would definitely be reason to pause.
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Post by mindovermatter on Nov 23, 2015 13:31:22 GMT -5
Funny. I wouldn't be surprised if he has tried but Al wouldn't accept it. I applaud Matt for sticking it out. He has a very difficult and stressful job. I think Al is the only one you could expect to go down with the ship. If it were the case that Hakan jumped ship willfully, I wouldn't be surprised if it has crossed Matt's mind as well, but Matt seems much more involved and "there" than Hakan ever was. Hakan had to be told by Al to stop selling shares if I remember correctly, he was like a scorned child at that particular CC, I never trusted or liked him. We have no idea why Hakan left but the typical silence from the company is not surprising. I'd rather have a not so effective CEO leave than get news of production problems.
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Post by garrett on Nov 23, 2015 14:10:18 GMT -5
I think Al is the only one you could expect to go down with the ship. If it were the case that Hakan jumped ship willfully, I wouldn't be surprised if it has crossed Matt's mind as well, but Matt seems much more involved and "there" than Hakan ever was. Hakan had to be told by Al to stop selling shares if I remember correctly, he was like a scorned child at that particular CC, I never trusted or liked him. We have no idea why Hakan left but the typical silence from the company is not surprising. I'd rather have a not so effective CEO leave than get news of production problems. I think Hakan's leaving MannKind is pretty straight forward. When a CEO does not perform he (or she) is given the opportunity to resign or face termination. That's what happen here.
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Post by kball on Nov 23, 2015 14:23:17 GMT -5
If we were to see Matt bail, then I believe that would be the red herring we could/should use to make a pivotal investment decision. Right now, with Al back at the reigns, any number of things could be agreed to that would improve the current predicament. If Matt were to walk, that would definitely be reason to pause.Brings up something else i found odd on CC, Matt turning it over to the woman to go over the numbers and then following up her portion with him commenting further. I say this not because apparently Matt had eye surgery (or something) so i would get not wanting to strain the eyes after, but when he followed he was OBVIOUSLY reading prepared text/remarks that went on for a good while iirc. Perhaps her initiation. Perhaps i'm just more and more paranoid. Perhaps both. Perhaps neither. No...I'm definitely paranoid come to think of it
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Post by jpg on Nov 23, 2015 14:40:14 GMT -5
We have no idea why Hakan left but the typical silence from the company is not surprising. I'd rather have a not so effective CEO leave than get news of production problems. I think Hakan's leaving MannKind is pretty straight forward. When a CEO does not perform he (or she) is given the opportunity to resign or face termination. That's what happen here. How often are the press releases announcing them so 'dry'?
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Post by peppy on Nov 23, 2015 14:49:39 GMT -5
I think Hakan's leaving MannKind is pretty straight forward. When a CEO does not perform he (or she) is given the opportunity to resign or face termination. That's what happen here. How often are the press releases announcing them so 'dry'? There is a form that the company needs to file today with the SEC regarding the change. It has been posted by mholdem and others, that It is coming. we get to see what that says also.
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Post by jeremg on Nov 23, 2015 14:55:10 GMT -5
I think Hakan's leaving MannKind is pretty straight forward. When a CEO does not perform he (or she) is given the opportunity to resign or face termination. That's what happen here. How often are the press releases announcing them so 'dry'? Yah, I think there was absolutely some sort of struggle or "ill-will" between one or both parties. If they had fired him, I would have expected some sort of "Thank You for your service" as to not rub salt in the wound. Maybe Hakan did in fact bail off of the unsinkable Mann-tanic upon seeing the unavoidable Iceberg ahead... so many unknowables, so little time remaining.
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Post by amuninni on Nov 23, 2015 15:12:00 GMT -5
there may be a press release after market close?
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