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Post by slugworth008 on Aug 19, 2016 14:53:04 GMT -5
Fellow MNKD longs - It's been a painful and educational journey. This is an investment that should have paid off long ago. The future is uncertain but hopeful - IMO.
I have a shitload invested in this company and completely believe in the product for a variety of reasons. I'll spare ya'll on my edification of such at this time. My hope is that by May 1 2017 we are in a far, far better place. This is for personal reasons. I am opening this thread to simply say I am grateful to the many honest MNKD longs on this board. I have taken solace from your insight and wisdom and this has buoyed my spirit with this investment. I am moving back to PDX in Sept - And God willing my investment in this life changing drug will bear fruit. I cannot bear the thought of failure for a drug that is obviously so superior and helpful to the diabetic community. I have written congressmen/woman and anyone else of note with regards to the bullshit that has been taking place with Afrezza. JMHFO.
All longs have a great weekend and thank you for all of the info you post here. Liane, thank you for moderating this unruly bunch - LMFAO
I am holding and holding and adding and adding - WTF!!!
Peace out!
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Post by tingtongtung on Aug 19, 2016 15:05:17 GMT -5
Hahaha.. Used to be in PDX a while back - nice but getting expensive. Always the little sibling of Seattle :-)
I'm holding MNKD as well as adding (just to reduce my cost basis). I hope we get a boost in numbers pretty soon.
Good luck for you and us!
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Post by kc on Aug 19, 2016 15:06:21 GMT -5
Amen to your comments. I too hope we see our obsession and investment bring us some fruit by next spring.
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Post by Chris-C on Aug 19, 2016 15:08:53 GMT -5
Well said, Slugworth! And nice to see another person with OR connections on this board. I have a brother in PDX and I went to High School in West Linn, where they obviously didn't teach me much about risk taking.  I share your sentiments and sense of hope! It's gotten so that I hate to have conversations with my Scottrade and Fidelity reps because they know how far underwater I am with this position and I imagine them thinking that they are speaking with an idiot, especially given my penchant for acquiring more shares at this level. Time will tell if they are right, but in the meantime, I'm in it for the long haul (think years!). I believe Pfeffer and Castagna are giving us as good a shot as any investor could expect. I stand beside you in saluting loyal longs on this board. Chris C |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 15:50:55 GMT -5
There is no such thing as an honest long or an honest short. One is simply long, short, or not invested. I'm an honest person so being long or short a position doesn't make me honest or dishonest. When investing, there is no loyalty except to my investment decision. Maybe you're mixing loyalty with honesty? It's investing, not world war two or a football game. Post and threads like this demonstrate how taking ones' investments personally end up a disaster. It also demonstrates the most dangerous influence on individual investors - group think. How many people came up on this and other boards, read the over-the-top assessments of soon-to-be rich mnkd investors, only to lose a large portion of their investments? Of course someone will get snarky and ask me "then why are you here". Simple really. I'm an investor and there's information here. Granted one has to wade through the junk to find it, but, it's here. And if mnkd does take off, as I mentioned I'm an investor, so I will decide at that time whether I wish to reenter the mnkd vortex of price movement and take my chances yet again. Til then, I follow, read, listen, learn, absorb, and continue moving forward on this an about a dozen other hopefuls I follow and participate in. When I go out I either take my money or take my emotions. I don't leave the house with both.
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Post by babaoriley on Aug 19, 2016 17:32:29 GMT -5
There is no such thing as an honest long or an honest short. One is simply long, short, or not invested. I'm an honest person so being long or short a position doesn't make me honest or dishonest. When investing, there is no loyalty except to my investment decision. Maybe you're mixing loyalty with honesty? It's investing, not world war two or a football game. Post and threads like this demonstrate how taking ones' investments personally end up a disaster. It also demonstrates the most dangerous influence on individual investors - group think. How many people came up on this and other boards, read the over-the-top assessments of soon-to-be rich mnkd investors, only to lose a large portion of their investments? Of course someone will get snarky and ask me "then why are you here". Simple really. I'm an investor and there's information here. Granted one has to wade through the junk to find it, but, it's here. And if mnkd does take off, as I mentioned I'm an investor, so I will decide at that time whether I wish to reenter the mnkd vortex of price movement and take my chances yet again. Til then, I follow, read, listen, learn, absorb, and continue moving forward on this an about a dozen other hopefuls I follow and participate in. When I go out I either take my money or take my emotions. I don't leave the house with both. I felt dirty after reading your post, davinci. Real dirty... |
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Post by Chris-C on Aug 19, 2016 18:00:19 GMT -5
There is no such thing as an honest long or an honest short. One is simply long, short, or not invested. I'm an honest person so being long or short a position doesn't make me honest or dishonest. When investing, there is no loyalty except to my investment decision. Maybe you're mixing loyalty with honesty? It's investing, not world war two or a football game. Post and threads like this demonstrate how taking ones' investments personally end up a disaster. It also demonstrates the most dangerous influence on individual investors - group think. How many people came up on this and other boards, read the over-the-top assessments of soon-to-be rich mnkd investors, only to lose a large portion of their investments? Of course someone will get snarky and ask me "then why are you here". Simple really. I'm an investor and there's information here. Granted one has to wade through the junk to find it, but, it's here. And if mnkd does take off, as I mentioned I'm an investor, so I will decide at that time whether I wish to reenter the mnkd vortex of price movement and take my chances yet again. Til then, I follow, read, listen, learn, absorb, and continue moving forward on this an about a dozen other hopefuls I follow and participate in. When I go out I either take my money or take my emotions. I don't leave the house with both. Thanks for sharing your wisdom davinci. Many on this board might feel humbled by your ability to control your emotions in your investment decision- making. That's a rare gift, and perhaps it inspired the development of computerized trading algorithms (or vice-versa). There is no doubt at all that the best "technical" approach is to be an investor who makes decisions in an emotional vacuum without the complications of values and ideals that lead to that ugly stepsister you would call loyalty. Yet, the last time I checked, in most social settings (and this board is one example), people are influenced by emotions and they do get attached to other people, to ideas, to sports teams, to objects, and yes, even to the companies in which they invest. And sometimes the success of companies (at their core, social groups) defy even the best predictions made by algorithms and accountants, precisely because there are factors that cannot be predicted or controlled by cold, objective calculations. It turns out that often those factors involve humans, motivated by (dare I say it?) emotions. For my journey, I wouldn't have it any other way (win, lose or draw). good luck to you Chris C |
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Post by saxcmann on Aug 19, 2016 18:34:18 GMT -5
Well said, Slugworth! And nice to see another person with OR connections on this board. I have a brother in PDX and I went to High School in West Linn, where they obviously didn't teach me much about risk taking. I share your sentiments and sense of hope! It's gotten so that I hate to have conversations with my Scottrade and Fidelity reps because they know how far underwater I am with this position and I imagine them thinking that they are speaking with an idiot, especially given my penchant for acquiring more shares at this level. Time will tell if they are right, but in the meantime, I'm in it for the long haul (think years!). I believe Pfeffer and Castagna are giving us as good a shot as any investor could expect. I stand beside you in saluting loyal longs on this board. Chris C A close friends son plays basketball for West Linn. Powerhouse basketball program. I'm also from the Northwest. I was originally with td ameritrade and switched to fidelity for the lending program. I have a boat load of shares and continue to buy to reduce my cost average. I believe we're going in the right direction with matt and mike. Make or break time for mnkd. Good luck to all my fellow longs! |
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Post by LosingMyBullishness on Aug 19, 2016 18:48:37 GMT -5
There is no such thing as an honest long or an honest short. One is simply long, short, or not invested. I'm an honest person so being long or short a position doesn't make me honest or dishonest. When investing, there is no loyalty except to my investment decision. Maybe you're mixing loyalty with honesty? It's investing, not world war two or a football game. Post and threads like this demonstrate how taking ones' investments personally end up a disaster. It also demonstrates the most dangerous influence on individual investors - group think. How many people came up on this and other boards, read the over-the-top assessments of soon-to-be rich mnkd investors, only to lose a large portion of their investments? Of course someone will get snarky and ask me "then why are you here". Simple really. I'm an investor and there's information here. Granted one has to wade through the junk to find it, but, it's here. And if mnkd does take off, as I mentioned I'm an investor, so I will decide at that time whether I wish to reenter the mnkd vortex of price movement and take my chances yet again. Til then, I follow, read, listen, learn, absorb, and continue moving forward on this an about a dozen other hopefuls I follow and participate in. When I go out I either take my money or take my emotions. I don't leave the house with both. "When I go out I either take my money or take my emotions. I don't leave the house with both.". Pretty cool but also quite obscure, like Marvel comics. When I go out, it is me that goes out. If I leave my purse at home I am without money but how do I not take my emotions with me? If you leave your house (interestingly you did not use 'home') without emotions people would see a robot . You might be very good in ignoring your emotions but this would also be regarded as a problematic personal trait and called Alexithymia. I assume you are neither a robot nor suffering from Alexithymia, but believe that you do more than others evaluate uncertainties by facts. But what do you do if there is an unsufficient factual base like today: We did not get the scripts number before close. People 'with emotion' would fill that gap and make a decision. You can't. You have to wait. Given MNKD's history of unsufficient facts (partners, Market makers, scripts, sales strategy, costs, coverage, market share, RLS etc) I look forward to the day when you feel well informed and buy your shares. |
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Post by avichen on Aug 19, 2016 21:05:23 GMT -5
Everybody has a different motives with this. Of course the core would be to earn money. I believe many user-patients invested to keep this product alive. I myself invested for the purpose of pushing this product to global market.
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Post by beardawg on Aug 19, 2016 22:25:00 GMT -5
There is no such thing as an honest long or an honest short. One is simply long, short, or not invested. I'm an honest person so being long or short a position doesn't make me honest or dishonest. When investing, there is no loyalty except to my investment decision. Maybe you're mixing loyalty with honesty? It's investing, not world war two or a football game. Post and threads like this demonstrate how taking ones' investments personally end up a disaster. It also demonstrates the most dangerous influence on individual investors - group think. How many people came up on this and other boards, read the over-the-top assessments of soon-to-be rich mnkd investors, only to lose a large portion of their investments? Of course someone will get snarky and ask me "then why are you here". Simple really. I'm an investor and there's information here. Granted one has to wade through the junk to find it, but, it's here. And if mnkd does take off, as I mentioned I'm an investor, so I will decide at that time whether I wish to reenter the mnkd vortex of price movement and take my chances yet again. Til then, I follow, read, listen, learn, absorb, and continue moving forward on this an about a dozen other hopefuls I follow and participate in. When I go out I either take my money or take my emotions. I don't leave the house with both. I completely disagree. You can be either and also dishonest. You can be short and have valid concerns and think that MNKD will not be able to pull it off. You can also be short and try to act like you are long, but try to discourage others from holding their shares using obviously (to the educated) false information. You could spread misinformation or constantly harp on the "negatives" to create fear on the part of the longs. Think "Executives selling because the end is near!!" Same for a long. you can have valid thoughts on why MNKD will succeed. Or you can spread false information of positive events, trying to get a jump in the share price. Think "buyout today!!" |
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Post by babaoriley on Aug 20, 2016 0:50:18 GMT -5
There is no such thing as an honest long or an honest short. One is simply long, short, or not invested. I'm an honest person so being long or short a position doesn't make me honest or dishonest. When investing, there is no loyalty except to my investment decision. Maybe you're mixing loyalty with honesty? It's investing, not world war two or a football game. Post and threads like this demonstrate how taking ones' investments personally end up a disaster. It also demonstrates the most dangerous influence on individual investors - group think. How many people came up on this and other boards, read the over-the-top assessments of soon-to-be rich mnkd investors, only to lose a large portion of their investments? Of course someone will get snarky and ask me "then why are you here". Simple really. I'm an investor and there's information here. Granted one has to wade through the junk to find it, but, it's here. And if mnkd does take off, as I mentioned I'm an investor, so I will decide at that time whether I wish to reenter the mnkd vortex of price movement and take my chances yet again. Til then, I follow, read, listen, learn, absorb, and continue moving forward on this an about a dozen other hopefuls I follow and participate in. When I go out I either take my money or take my emotions. I don't leave the house with both. Thanks for sharing your wisdom davinci. Many on this board might feel humbled by your ability to control your emotions in your investment decision- making. That's a rare gift, and perhaps it inspired the development of computerized trading algorithms (or vice-versa). There is no doubt at all that the best "technical" approach is to be an investor who makes decisions in an emotional vacuum without the complications of values and ideals that lead to that ugly stepsister you would call loyalty. Yet, the last time I checked, in most social settings (and this board is one example), people are influenced by emotions and they do get attached to other people, to ideas, to sports teams, to objects, and yes, even to the companies in which they invest. And sometimes the success of companies (at their core, social groups) defy even the best predictions made by algorithms and accountants, precisely because there are factors that cannot be predicted or controlled by cold, objective calculations. It turns out that often those factors involve humans, motivated by (dare I say it?) emotions. For my journey, I wouldn't have it any other way (win, lose or draw). good luck to you Chris C Well said, Chris, you emotional wreck!  Not everyone invests solely for the money, surely it's the principal reason, but there are others as you point out, and people may well get value out of the whole experience even when dropping a fortune or two. |
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Post by mnkdfann on Aug 20, 2016 1:09:37 GMT -5
"When I go out I either take my money or take my emotions. I don't leave the house with both.". Pretty cool but also quite obscure, like Marvel comics. Obscure like Marvel comics? Not sure what point you are making. In this day and age, given the huge success of the movies, Marvel comics is anything but obscure. Yet your comment did not appear to be sarcastic, so I am not sure what you meant. |
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Post by prvs on Aug 20, 2016 8:00:48 GMT -5
There is no such thing as an honest long or an honest short. One is simply long, short, or not invested. I'm an honest person so being long or short a position doesn't make me honest or dishonest. When investing, there is no loyalty except to my investment decision. Maybe you're mixing loyalty with honesty? It's investing, not world war two or a football game. Post and threads like this demonstrate how taking ones' investments personally end up a disaster. It also demonstrates the most dangerous influence on individual investors - group think. How many people came up on this and other boards, read the over-the-top assessments of soon-to-be rich mnkd investors, only to lose a large portion of their investments? Of course someone will get snarky and ask me "then why are you here". Simple really. I'm an investor and there's information here. Granted one has to wade through the junk to find it, but, it's here. And if mnkd does take off, as I mentioned I'm an investor, so I will decide at that time whether I wish to reenter the mnkd vortex of price movement and take my chances yet again. Til then, I follow, read, listen, learn, absorb, and continue moving forward on this an about a dozen other hopefuls I follow and participate in. When I go out I either take my money or take my emotions. I don't leave the house with both. This seems to be the difference between a pure chartist and a pure "story" investor too. The chartist sees only the graph formations based on past data and makes a decision to invest or stay out, buy or sell based on that. The story investor reads everything they can get their hands on and either comes to believe in the product, the management and/or both when making a decision to invest or stay out, buy or sell. There are chartists who use both the charts and the story, but there are few story investors who pay any attention to charts. I'm a story investor. I LIKE it when the charts support my decisions, but I don't care if they don't. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Aug 20, 2016 8:37:11 GMT -5
There is no such thing as an honest long or an honest short. One is simply long, short, or not invested. I'm an honest person so being long or short a position doesn't make me honest or dishonest. When investing, there is no loyalty except to my investment decision. Maybe you're mixing loyalty with honesty? It's investing, not world war two or a football game. Post and threads like this demonstrate how taking ones' investments personally end up a disaster. It also demonstrates the most dangerous influence on individual investors - group think. How many people came up on this and other boards, read the over-the-top assessments of soon-to-be rich mnkd investors, only to lose a large portion of their investments? Of course someone will get snarky and ask me "then why are you here". Simple really. I'm an investor and there's information here. Granted one has to wade through the junk to find it, but, it's here. And if mnkd does take off, as I mentioned I'm an investor, so I will decide at that time whether I wish to reenter the mnkd vortex of price movement and take my chances yet again. Til then, I follow, read, listen, learn, absorb, and continue moving forward on this an about a dozen other hopefuls I follow and participate in. When I go out I either take my money or take my emotions. I don't leave the house with both. This seems to be the difference between a pure chartist and a pure "story" investor too. The chartist sees only the graph formations based on past data and makes a decision to invest or stay out, buy or sell based on that. The story investor reads everything they can get their hands on and either comes to believe in the product, the management and/or both when making a decision to invest or stay out, buy or sell. There are chartists who use both the charts and the story, but there are few story investors who pay any attention to charts. I'm a story investor. I LIKE it when the charts support my decisions, but I don't care if they don't. I agree, I myself like to invest in turn around story's, with improving fundamentals that are undervalued. #WYNN, JCP, LL. I just took profits off of EXAS, because I no longer feel it's undervalued. I use charts to enter or exit a position. And sometimes use trailing stops to exit when I'm not sure. I'm not on the board of any other stocks. I know my stocks well and don't need to know what others think. But MNKD is a different story, it's for the long haul! I'm a advocate of the product. I do care what my MNKD friends think. And my investment in them is also for the long haul !! |
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Not everyone invests solely for the money, surely it's the principal reason, but there are others as you point out, and people may well get value out of the whole experience even when dropping a fortune or two.
