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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 16:21:15 GMT -5
Stocktwits always reputable source of info especially when related to MNKD
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Post by harryx1 on May 23, 2017 20:19:21 GMT -5
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Post by kc on May 23, 2017 20:59:13 GMT -5
Requirement for filing 13D is 10 days but seems that SEC my be lax in policing it. I am guessing that Mann Foundation was buying two weeks ago and we will see a 13D this week. If that is the case they are trying to buy up all the shears perhaps to take a private. Why not buy them cheap. Where does Aegis fit in. Some might be rotting in Denmark.
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Post by peppy on May 23, 2017 21:46:20 GMT -5
That is not what was reported from the annual shareholders meeting. The report was paraphrasing from a after meeting talk with Matt regarding cash runway, "shareholders have had enough pain." Additionally, from tinkerbell, In my view, the meeting's main message was to thank investors who've been long in the stock. The term, 'we will get there' was echoed more than once and by all who presented to the audience. This was not an 'announcement meeting' that many had perhaps hoped for. It was more than that. The real life stories which were shared by four Type 1 diabetics was poignant. That they also have a sincere interest in supporting Afrezza's success is as important to them as the air you and I breathe. Yes. They are determined. You should be glad for that. The singular message they shared which was fully embraced by those in the audience and I paraphrase: 'Afrezza cannot and will not disappear. We will do all in our power to make sure of that.' I believe it.
Read more: mnkd.proboards.com/user/1432/recent#ixzz4hxbBQNHs
so Mann foundation bought shares before/after the Deerfield thingy? 1) Mann Group LLC 17 930 450 2) Alfred E Mann Living Trust 17,930,450 3) Deerfield Management 5,217,391 4) Blackrock 3 ,742,311 5) Goldman Sachs 1,562, 405
Read more: mnkd.proboards.com/thread/7898/mann-estate-purchase-9-shares?page=2#ixzz4hxccM4Q9
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Post by rossomalley on May 23, 2017 22:16:51 GMT -5
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Post by agedhippie on May 23, 2017 22:24:37 GMT -5
That is not what was reported from the annual shareholders meeting. The report was paraphrasing from a after meeting talk with Matt regarding cash runway, "shareholders have had enough pain." Additionally, from tinkerbell, In my view, the meeting's main message was to thank investors who've been long in the stock. The term, 'we will get there' was echoed more than once and by all who presented to the audience. This was not an 'announcement meeting' that many had perhaps hoped for. It was more than that. The real life stories which were shared by four Type 1 diabetics was poignant. That they also have a sincere interest in supporting Afrezza's success is as important to them as the air you and I breathe. Yes. They are determined. You should be glad for that. The singular message they shared which was fully embraced by those in the audience and I paraphrase: 'Afrezza cannot and will not disappear. We will do all in our power to make sure of that.' I believe it.
Read more: mnkd.proboards.com/user/1432/recent#ixzz4hxbBQNHs
so Mann foundation bought shares before/after the Deerfield thingy? 1) Mann Group LLC 17 930 450 2) Alfred E Mann Living Trust 17,930,450 3) Deerfield Management 5,217,391 4) Blackrock 3 ,742,311 5) Goldman Sachs 1,562, 405
Read more: mnkd.proboards.com/thread/7898/mann-estate-purchase-9-shares?page=2#ixzz4hxccM4Q9
Mann Group LLC is controlled by the Alfred E Mann Living Trust with so it shows as an indirect holding of the Alfred E Mann Living Trust ( Alfred E Mann Living Trust - Form 3). That is why you see 17,930,450 twice. If you look at the Form 3 link you will see the other entities that are now controlled by the Alfred E Mann Living Trust, basically anything flagged with an I for indirect holding. The Trusts own holdings are flagged with a D for direct holding.
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Post by boytroy88 on May 23, 2017 23:47:56 GMT -5
So does that mean that the trust is going to exercise the rights to all those options? Looks like it's 730+K at around $19.xx/share...comes to about $14.7Mil....could get double the shares in the open market....
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Post by kuka on May 24, 2017 0:50:22 GMT -5
go back several weeks ago this year and remember that the Mann Group sold it interest in EYES ....I think they sold it to a member of the EYES Board.
They needed those funds to buy more MNKD.... hmmm....do you think they know something?
wow, that certainly shrunk the float again ..... if I were more caring I would feel bad for the crooked shorts
but ...I dont give a HOOT
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Post by rossomalley on May 24, 2017 1:22:05 GMT -5
It's been a long day, maybe I missed it, but has there been any proof that AM Foundation is buying more MNKD other than that dubiously sourced screenshot that started this discussion?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 9:35:41 GMT -5
Sec form 3 provides clarity on ownership vs form 4 change in ownership?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 9:37:00 GMT -5
Rick- I am not sure anyone has the exact correct figures. I would have thought the information from the Bloomberg terminal be the most accurate but I guess I am wrong.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 9:37:50 GMT -5
It's been a long day, maybe I missed it, but has there been any proof that AM Foundation is buying more MNKD other than that dubiously sourced screenshot that started this discussion? I think if the AM Foundation bought that many shares on the open market a lot of shorts would have covered.
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Post by robbmo on May 24, 2017 9:54:59 GMT -5
I did some research and find it interesting that, as of October 2015, Al Mann either directly or indirectly controlled 153,223,771 shares, which equals 30,644,754 shares post split. This is exactly the number that VIVIP75 shows on his screenshot. However, the form 3 filing that is going around does not include some of those entities. Could the trust still control them, but not have to report them because of the structure? mayafiles.tase.co.il/rpdf/998001-999000/p998310-00.pdf
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Post by lakon on May 24, 2017 10:30:32 GMT -5
I did some research and find it interesting that, as of October 2015, Al Mann either directly or indirectly controlled 153,223,771 shares, which equals 30,644,754 shares post split. This is exactly the number that VIVIP75 shows on his screenshot. However, the form 3 filing that is going around does not include some of those entities. Could the trust still control them, but not have to report them because of the structure?mayafiles.tase.co.il/rpdf/998001-999000/p998310-00.pdfYes, not saying they do, but they could.
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Post by lakon on May 24, 2017 10:39:41 GMT -5
It's been a long day, maybe I missed it, but has there been any proof that AM Foundation is buying more MNKD other than that dubiously sourced screenshot that started this discussion? I think if the AM Foundation bought that many shares on the open market a lot of shorts would have covered. 1. Al Mann was no fan of the shorts. 2. Al Mann always had a plan. 3. If Al Mann did not want the shorts to know, he could have planned it that way for others to follow. 4. Not saying any of this is so, but it could be. While the shorts have done well on paper, they were never the smartest in the room, not even close, just the most self-serving and exploitive. I have thought of many ways to cause them severe pain simply through financial engineering IF already a billionaire... Again, probably not a concern for Al at the time, but if it was me, problem solved.
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