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Post by petech on Apr 21, 2015 15:22:21 GMT -5
Actually...."bro"....you're missing the point. As I have repeatedly stated, I am not selling my shares until after DTC, at the earliest. To a long-term investor like me, the current share price is irrelevant. But in lending my shares out, two things happen: (1) the shorts dig themselves a deeper hole they have to get out of; and (2) I use the cash to buy more shares and the process keeps on keeping on. In fact the low current value helps me buy more shares with my monthly "dividend" check. So what ends up happening is I get more shares...and the shorts are in a deeper hole. Both are something I want. Current share price matters to traders and shorts, both of whom I could care less about. I am not down 30% this year because I haven't sold anything. Google the difference between realizing a gain/loss and recognizing one. Maybe then you'll get it. We clear now...."bro?"
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Post by dstevenson on Apr 21, 2015 15:32:19 GMT -5
I work in the industry and know a lot more about financials and the stock market then you will ever imagine bro. It's unrealized in your portfolio, but when you look in your account that had $100 and now it has $70, you are losing money losing money.
Have at you will but your mind set will explain why we are closing in on 100 million short shares. Keep letting them short and manipulate the stock.
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Post by benh on Apr 21, 2015 15:33:52 GMT -5
Benh, It is not a typo. Their A1C numbers are in the normal range, no longer even pre diabetic. Didn't expect them to say this outright until the interview on the 7th. It's not my definition. But in a world where homeopathy exists as 'medicine' . cure kjʊə,kjɔː/ verb past tense: cured; past participle: cured; adjective: -cured 1. relieve (a person or animal) of the symptoms of a disease or condition. "he was cured of the disease"
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Post by liane on Apr 21, 2015 15:41:18 GMT -5
I would not call him "cured" until when and if all diabetic metabolic processes are reversed and exogenous insulin is no longer needed.
It's like when I'm taking a medical history on a patient, and I've asked them to list their medical conditions. They may omit "hypertension", but I'll notice they list "xyz" blood pressure med. They will tell me "I don't have hypertension - I'm on "xyz"". No, they do have hypertension, but it is "controlled".
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Post by benh on Apr 21, 2015 16:45:26 GMT -5
Many if's and when's. But how this is approached I will find very interesting. As whilst the company may take a formal line, I'm pretty sure journo's will clickbait it with ambiguity.
I'm as fascinated in the process as I am in the science/tech/PPS.
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Post by petech on Apr 21, 2015 16:48:34 GMT -5
I wouldn't be too sure on your theory; I can imagine a lot.
And as you seem unable to use google (odd for someone who uses the term "bro" to lack this ability), here is the link you are missing: I lose or gain money only when I sell a stock and thus RECOGNIZE the gain or loss. When the stock price fluctuates, I REALIZE gain/loss...but that's irrelevant. When MNKD was over $11 a share, that money was not in my hand...it is on paper...and paper doesn't pay the bills, my friend. Sorry..."bro." And if MNKD were to go to $1 currently, I would be REALIZING a loss...but that would also not matter...until I sold my shares and RECOGNIZED it. As long as I don't sell the shares, I may REALIZE gains/losses based on the stock price...but they are irrelevant. So if my account value was $100 and now is $70, but I haven't sold, I have not lost anything. Just as if my account value moving from $100 to $500 doesn't give me a gain UNLESS I SELL. Hopefully you see the difference.
Now when sales are starting to skyrocket and you are starting to see buy recommendations....what kind of a position are our short friends in with 100M+ shares short? Better or worse than if there were 70M shares short? Or 30M short?
You see, I'm not looking to win a battle here...I looking to win the war.
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Post by BlueCat on Apr 21, 2015 16:57:04 GMT -5
I would not call him "cured" until when and if all diabetic metabolic processes are reversed and exogenous insulin is no longer needed. It's like when I'm taking a medical history on a patient, and I've asked them to list their medical conditions. They may omit "hypertension", but I'll notice they list "xyz" blood pressure med. They will tell me "I don't have hypertension - I'm on "xyz"". No, they do have hypertension, but it is "controlled". "Cured" vs. "controlled". Seems to me we are more likely to get either "Temporary reversal" or a "Slowed progression", correct? Reaching beyond my biology knowledge here - but giving the pancreas a chance for a break is good, but unless the problem started as a result of some sort of short term damage and its just healing - whatever has started the process would continue (either eventually or just more slowly) until there is a way to really 'cure' the cause - not just the effect ... ?
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Post by liane on Apr 21, 2015 17:06:39 GMT -5
Q2U,
Correct. I always expected Afrezza to control diabetes. It certainly remains to be seen if it can permanently reverse the process. It is not something I would have expected before seeing Afrezza released into the wild (outside of controlled studies). Perhaps on Afrezza, a small percentage of users can find it easier to make lifestyle changes that may allow for at least a temporary reversal of the disease process. Can anyone achieve a permanent reversal - remains to be seen. It will be an interesting journey.
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Post by BlueCat on Apr 21, 2015 17:09:11 GMT -5
Q2U, Correct. I always expected Afrezza to control diabetes. It certainly remains to be seen if it can permanently reverse the process. It is not something I would have expected before seeing Afrezza released into the wild (outside of controlled studies). Perhaps on Afrezza, a small percentage of users can find it easier to make lifestyle changes that may allow for at least a temporary reversal of the disease process. Can anyone achieve a permanent reversal - remains to be seen. It will be an interesting journey. Indeed. If it did, my gut-guess is that there would be something even more interesting in play. Kinda like when they finally discovered/admitted that most ulcers could be treated with antibiotics .....
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Post by rockstarrick on Apr 22, 2015 10:33:17 GMT -5
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Post by robsacher on Apr 22, 2015 13:27:31 GMT -5
dstevenson,
A trader in stocks would see that $30 reduction in the paper loss as a real financial loss because a trader sees profit and loss in a very short time frame. However, an investor is trained to ignore such temporary paper losses as part of an investor's strategy in long term gains.
Traders are like hunters and gatherers who live by what they can find each day while investors are like farmers who sow seeds and wait for their crop to ripen and bring in a harvest.
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Post by jackson on Apr 22, 2015 16:22:57 GMT -5
How dare someone say Bro, golly gee the nerve! Frankie take their names down and send to Santa! Resembling YMB not that there is anything wrong with that a little more flavorful over there. Not much opera and cardigans over there as here but I guess some of you know that as it seems OPC gets mentioned here a lot. People relax have some confidence in the stock you own! Geesh I would hate to serve with some of you people, first sign of an ant some of you would be screaming we're all gonna die! SNY/MNKD have a plan and they are executing. In less than 12 months we'll all be fine with MNKD and if we're not then it is going to suck a lot more for the people that need the drug. In the meantime maybe Frankie can talk to Tebow for everyone.
Jackson here-Not Spiro who I am glad to see is having tremendous results.
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Post by spiro on Apr 22, 2015 17:17:53 GMT -5
Spiro is cured, he no longer has diabetes, OK just kidding, but Afrezza is damn sure in control. Spiro posted this on a thread that got deleted earlier today.
Spiro decided to take one for the team and eat a 52g carb Michael Angelo frozen lasagna for lunch today, smothered with mozzarella cheese. Spiro's pancreas is certainly acting like it can all of a sudden make more insulin. Spiro has tortured his fingers about 8 times today, with all readings between 88 and 98. If Spiro was a little more flexible, he would start torturing his toes for blood.
1 Hour BG 90 2 Hour BG 97 3 Hour BG 98
This was a Holy Toledo moment
Spiro here
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Post by babaoriley on Apr 22, 2015 21:30:29 GMT -5
Congrats on BG, Spiro, that's excellent; but tell the whole story, what has been the effect on your golf game since you started taking Afrezza?
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Post by mnholdem on Apr 22, 2015 21:45:59 GMT -5
Are we about to go above 100 again?
Was it on this board where I read a PWD's comment that she uses a virtually painless device that draws blood from the fore arm?
I cannot help after reading that you did 8 finger pricks today but to think that it's gotta be really tough pitching out of the heavy rough with sore fingers, eh spiro?
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