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Post by tayl5 on Dec 18, 2015 4:10:33 GMT -5
Sounds like the model has evolved to something not very different from an office or clinic for GPs or endos who specialize in treating diabetes. Good concept, but not really a shortcut to educating and converting existing diabetes docs.
If you think about how a clinic based on a drug we don't care so much about, e.g. a new statin competing with generic statins, would appear, you can see better the potential conflict that one-drug shops would represent.
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Post by mindovermatter on Dec 18, 2015 8:20:40 GMT -5
Exercise in futility to be honest. Sanofi isn't going to do any such thing in the US. Sanofi was smart to at least do the coach program. But just how well is it being pushed and utilized? www.afrezza.com/support-and-savings |
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Post by kball on Dec 18, 2015 8:30:40 GMT -5
A way i can see this being of value and perhaps sooner is if its set up like a fat camp. For people newly diagnosed (mostly, maybe others with out of control sugars) sometime in the near future.
Say charging people per week and have meals and monitoring all done on site. And the coach program helping folks with technique, timing and strength of dosages.
Maybe even done at college campuses in summer using dorm rooms that have been vacated.
I've done several guitar programs like this (week at Loyola marymont, one in seattle). and it was done really well. One price for food, dorm room, instruction and hanging around others willing to do the same. (actually 2 prices, you could do it without paying for room if you commuted each day)
Shout out--National Guitar Workshop
Fun times back in the day
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Post by esstan2001 on Dec 18, 2015 8:57:02 GMT -5
I'd be interested in a chain of clinics for MannKind investors. Those would surely pop up throughout the country and be well-attended. and you proposed drug of choice would be ? ..... Oxycodone, Heroin, LSD.... what addictive substance would best solve our problems?  |
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Post by mssciguy on Dec 18, 2015 9:01:37 GMT -5
A way i can see this being of value and perhaps sooner is if its set up like a fat camp. For people newly diagnosed (mostly, maybe others with out of control sugars) sometime in the near future. Say charging people per week and have meals and monitoring all done on site. And the coach program helping folks with technique, timing and strength of dosages. Maybe even done at college campuses in summer using dorm rooms that have been vacated. I've done several guitar programs like this (week at Loyola marymont, one in seattle). and it was done really well. One price for food, dorm room, instruction and hanging around others willing to do the same. (actually 2 prices, you could do it without paying for room if you commuted each day) Shout out--National Guitar Workshop Fun times back in the day While living in Orange County, CA, I would sometimes see these mobile MRI labs. Not sure it they are still around. But how about a mobile facility or like you say some rental space? Here in the mid west my new eye doctor, for example, just shows up a couple afternoons per week at a local supermarket, in the backroom where he has his equipment. Very professional and fast, you get the vision test, the kind of prescription you want within 10 minutes at most. Then your credit card gets swiped through his paypal reader and he takes his $45. Then it's time to choose glasses. That's a whole different story. |
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Post by esstan2001 on Dec 18, 2015 9:08:22 GMT -5
I'd be interested in a chain of clinics for MannKind investors. Those would surely pop up throughout the country and be well-attended. Oddly enough, there is actually one in my neighborhood. They have this API called "laphroaig" that they use in their treatment... though perhaps MNKD syndrome is off-label. Funny, I have been using the Special Edition Lagavulin 12 year API for my off-label treatment. What I am noticing (as of late) is that similar to a few patients on Afrezza, it is now taking increasing doses to be effective. I have a theory that this is a result of my recent poor informational intake, and that if the content reverts to what led my beliefs in the past, or if I consume a better, healthier diet of information, I suspect that the dosing requirements will go down. Come to think of it, it seems very analogous to T2 Diabetes.  |
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Post by mssciguy on Dec 18, 2015 9:14:19 GMT -5
esstan2001 with so many of us scouring the internet for information, it's doubtful there's anything new that's public that escaped our attention. It's all up to those whose job it is to preserve and defend the company and it's shareholder value now... and Sanofi. Have a great weekend, I am going on an information fast (with the possible exception of some patent searches which will be captured in blog format elsewhere prior to sharing).
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Post by esstan2001 on Dec 18, 2015 9:56:04 GMT -5
esstan2001 with so many of us scouring the internet for information, it's doubtful there's anything new that's public that escaped our attention. It's all up to those whose job it is to preserve and defend the company and it's shareholder value now... and Sanofi. Have a great weekend, I am going on an information fast (with the possible exception of some patent searches which will be captured in blog format elsewhere prior to sharing). Thanks, and you too (and good luck with the information fast- I may need one to cleanse my system too! ) |
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Post by robsacher on Dec 18, 2015 10:01:35 GMT -5
Sounds like the model has evolved to something not very different from an office or clinic for GPs or endos who specialize in treating diabetes. Good concept, but not really a shortcut to educating and converting existing diabetes docs. If you think about how a clinic based on a drug we don't care so much about, e.g. a new statin competing with generic statins, would appear, you can see better the potential conflict that one-drug shops would represent. The idea is not intended to educate or convert existing diabetes doctors. Sanofi should and would continue to do that in other arenas. This idea is to advance Afrezza therapy among T1 and T2 diabetes populations. Diabetes clinics that offer Afrezza as an insulin therapy could also help advance other doctors acceptance of Afrezza if they see that the clinics are doing well. |
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Post by robsacher on Dec 18, 2015 10:04:34 GMT -5
A way i can see this being of value and perhaps sooner is if its set up like a fat camp. For people newly diagnosed (mostly, maybe others with out of control sugars) sometime in the near future. Say charging people per week and have meals and monitoring all done on site. And the coach program helping folks with technique, timing and strength of dosages. Maybe even done at college campuses in summer using dorm rooms that have been vacated. I've done several guitar programs like this (week at Loyola marymont, one in seattle). and it was done really well. One price for food, dorm room, instruction and hanging around others willing to do the same. (actually 2 prices, you could do it without paying for room if you commuted each day) Shout out--National Guitar Workshop Fun times back in the day I respectfully disagree. While your idea is good for a music program, diabetes clinics need to have and maintain a medical professional design and system. I see the potential diabetes clinic as something that could be compared to pain management or emergency care clinics that already exist. |
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Post by robsacher on Dec 18, 2015 10:07:11 GMT -5
A way i can see this being of value and perhaps sooner is if its set up like a fat camp. For people newly diagnosed (mostly, maybe others with out of control sugars) sometime in the near future. Say charging people per week and have meals and monitoring all done on site. And the coach program helping folks with technique, timing and strength of dosages. Maybe even done at college campuses in summer using dorm rooms that have been vacated. I've done several guitar programs like this (week at Loyola marymont, one in seattle). and it was done really well. One price for food, dorm room, instruction and hanging around others willing to do the same. (actually 2 prices, you could do it without paying for room if you commuted each day) Shout out--National Guitar Workshop Fun times back in the day While living in Orange County, CA, I would sometimes see these mobile MRI labs. Not sure it they are still around. But how about a mobile facility or like you say some rental space? Here in the mid west my new eye doctor, for example, just shows up a couple afternoons per week at a local supermarket, in the backroom where he has his equipment. Very professional and fast, you get the vision test, the kind of prescription you want within 10 minutes at most. Then your credit card gets swiped through his paypal reader and he takes his $45. Then it's time to choose glasses. That's a whole different story. Mobile clinics could be a good idea in rural communities, perhaps. They could be an off shoot of a permanent clinic too. |
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Post by peppy on Dec 18, 2015 10:45:09 GMT -5
envisioning a dreamboat on wheels at the State Fair.
Something between, the Batmobile, the Oscar Meyer Weiner mobile.
For sales awareness and a blood sugar readings. (amusement and public service)
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Post by kball on Dec 18, 2015 11:14:56 GMT -5
envisioning a dreamboat on wheels at the State Fair.
Something between, the Batmobile, the Oscar Meyer Weiner mobile. For sales awareness and a blood sugar readings. (amusement and public service) Thinking even bigger--Rose Parade float |
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Post by bradleysbest on Dec 18, 2015 11:18:03 GMT -5
I like it! A SNY sponsored Afrezza float with Al riding on it! Sam with the fantastic 12 on it as well.....
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Post by kball on Dec 18, 2015 11:23:40 GMT -5
I like it! A SNY sponsored Afrezza float with Al riding on it! Sam with the fantastic 12 on it as well..... Running over us investors along the parade route....not to be a buzzkill or anything  |
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