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Post by robsacher on Dec 15, 2015 15:44:44 GMT -5
Is it time to consider the idea of Sanofi opening Afrezza clinics where Sanofi hired doctors offer Afrezza as an option for T1 and T2 patients?
Or, if there is some sort of a legal issue with Sanofi owning Afrezza clinics, could there be a method in which others open Afrezza clinics and offer Afrezza as an option? Does Al have friends interested in this endeavor? Or, are there any doctors reading this forum who might like to give it a try?
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Post by mssciguy on Dec 15, 2015 15:46:52 GMT -5
Is it time to consider the idea of Sanofi opening Afrezza clinics where Sanofi hired doctors offer Afrezza as an option for T1 and T2 patients? Just a couple of hours ago, someone on ymb was asking for a doctor prescribing Afrezza in Phoenix. Of course there's a need. Do you have some angel investors lined up ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 15:47:08 GMT -5
Is it time to consider the idea of Sanofi opening Afrezza clinics where Sanofi hired doctors offer Afrezza as an option for T1 and T2 patients? do you know if its is legal? Sanofi hiring doctors? Do u have any idea how much back office set up is needed to run a doc's office? Its not Asian country with no regulations. |
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Post by mssciguy on Dec 15, 2015 15:55:36 GMT -5
Is it time to consider the idea of Sanofi opening Afrezza clinics where Sanofi hired doctors offer Afrezza as an option for T1 and T2 patients? do you know if its is legal? Sanofi hiring doctors? Do u have any idea how much back office set up is needed to run a doc's office? Its not Asian country with no regulations. There are all kinds of specialist doctor's office (the notorious example currently is the pain pill docs). If deadly painkillers can be prescribed out of a specialty office, why couldn't an office with a spirometer and a doctor trained in diabetes care have a specialty in prescribing Afrezza? There are podiatrists sponsoring Afrezza to prevent foot ulcers. |
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Post by mssciguy on Dec 15, 2015 16:08:40 GMT -5
Several doctors (at least) read here robsacher --- it's a very good idea! Will be watching for feedback |
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Post by tommix321 on Dec 15, 2015 22:35:40 GMT -5
Is it time to consider the idea of Sanofi opening Afrezza clinics where Sanofi hired doctors offer Afrezza as an option for T1 and T2 patients? Or, if there is some sort of a legal issue with Sanofi owning Afrezza clinics, could there be a method in which others open Afrezza clinics and offer Afrezza as an option? Does Al have friends interested in this endeavor? Or, are there any doctors reading this forum who might like to give it a try? You could post the idea on the tudiabetes board and see what kind of response it elicits. |
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Post by sccrbrg on Dec 15, 2015 22:51:55 GMT -5
I would imagine that it would have to be privately funded by a medical entity that is unrelated to SNY or MNKD.
They can't even legally give away spirometers. I doubt they can legally open clinics and hire doctors to specifically prescribe afrezza.
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Post by trenddiver on Dec 15, 2015 23:33:30 GMT -5
Is it time to consider the idea of Sanofi opening Afrezza clinics where Sanofi hired doctors offer Afrezza as an option for T1 and T2 patients? Or, if there is some sort of a legal issue with Sanofi owning Afrezza clinics, could there be a method in which others open Afrezza clinics and offer Afrezza as an option? Does Al have friends interested in this endeavor? Or, are there any doctors reading this forum who might like to give it a try? Hate to say it, but you should stick to journalism. Trend |
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Post by kc on Dec 15, 2015 23:45:06 GMT -5
Is it time to consider the idea of Sanofi opening Afrezza clinics where Sanofi hired doctors offer Afrezza as an option for T1 and T2 patients? Or, if there is some sort of a legal issue with Sanofi owning Afrezza clinics, could there be a method in which others open Afrezza clinics and offer Afrezza as an option? Does Al have friends interested in this endeavor? Or, are there any doctors reading this forum who might like to give it a try? Interesting concept perhaps train the walk in med clinics at CVS and Walgreens to dispense Afrezza. |
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Post by BlueCat on Dec 16, 2015 0:40:59 GMT -5
Is it time to consider the idea of Sanofi opening Afrezza clinics where Sanofi hired doctors offer Afrezza as an option for T1 and T2 patients? Or, if there is some sort of a legal issue with Sanofi owning Afrezza clinics, could there be a method in which others open Afrezza clinics and offer Afrezza as an option? Does Al have friends interested in this endeavor? Or, are there any doctors reading this forum who might like to give it a try? Interesting concept perhaps train the walk in med clinics at CVS and Walgreens to dispense Afrezza.
KC - GMTA. That's exactly where I went reading down through this thread.
At minimum, they have the pressure cuffs and such even without the Minute Clinics. Flu shots. Why not pulmonary function testing? And the numbers of asthma patients would justify it regardless of Afrezza. That could at least reduce one part of the obstacle .....
WRT to Afrezza clinics - its an interesting idea. Though more likely it would be a diabetes specialty practice focused on new, innovative and testing therapies. My ENT does this, though I don't think he's funded by BP to do it .... its more in light of connections to research community.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 5:07:47 GMT -5
Is it time to consider the idea of Sanofi opening Afrezza clinics where Sanofi hired doctors offer Afrezza as an option for T1 and T2 patients? Or, if there is some sort of a legal issue with Sanofi owning Afrezza clinics, could there be a method in which others open Afrezza clinics and offer Afrezza as an option? Does Al have friends interested in this endeavor? Or, are there any doctors reading this forum who might like to give it a try? Interesting concept perhaps train the walk in med clinics at CVS and Walgreens to dispense Afrezza. Or have potential patients go to a virtual clinic. Sound crazy, yep but with Electronic Medical Records, why does the patient need to be face to face with doc? Can patient blow into a spirometer that is connected to a smart phone? If so, how much does one of these cost and if the patient buys it, reimbursement can drop since doc does not have to shell out for one and somehow save the patient a few bucks too? BTW - think I am crazy - see this link. These guys are putting kiosks into pharmacies. Camera with online connection to a doc. Patient takes their own vitals and data sent to doc. With a shortage of primary care docs, this type of thing is the future. www.healthspot.net |
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Post by mnholdem on Dec 16, 2015 8:40:23 GMT -5
I posted this story back in February. This seems like a good time to put the story out again.
Sanofi ups diabetes game in India through hospital clinics, local production
February 3, 2015 | By EJ Lane
Excerpt:
"Sanofi ($SNY) has taken dramatic steps to increase its diabetes-related presence in India, investing in a string of clinics and constructing its first foreign production facility to make its insulin, Insuman, for emerging markets.
Sanofi said it plans to invest $14.5 million through its Sanofi-Synthelabo (India) unit to support the Apollo Sugar Clinics chain of 26 facilities throughout India. The clinics company is a subsidiary of India's Apollo Hospitals. The clinics are intended to provide high-quality integrated care for diabetics in a country that counts 65 million of them and another 77 million prediabetic.
The moves come after the company fired then-CEO Chris Viehbacher shortly after the third-quarter earnings call, in part related to stern competition to its diabetes portfolio from companies such as Novo Nordisk ($NVO). Sanofi has yet to find a replacement, but has pushed ahead on the diabetes front, including plans hatched under Viehbacher's tenures, such as the Sugar Clinics."
Source: www.fiercepharmamanufacturing.com/story/sanofi-ups-diabetes-game-india-through-hospital-clinics-local-production/2015-02-03
NOTE: IMO, Veihbacher was a visionary. I don't know if the same holds true about Olivier Brandicourt, Sanofi's new CEO.
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Post by bradleysbest on Dec 16, 2015 9:22:06 GMT -5
Might be wise for SNY to start (consider) these "clinics" abroad & see how patients react to them. Very interesting idea though.
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Post by kc on Dec 16, 2015 10:59:37 GMT -5
Walgreens and CVS would like a big pipeline of walk in traffic for diabetes.
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Post by BlueCat on Dec 16, 2015 11:30:56 GMT -5
I think the trick is walking that line between the innovation and convenience and safety.
I should think the testing is a no-brainer. But give insulin at the wrong time/wrong person - the consequences would be really high. Not to mention the insurance liability in this country. And making certain the treatment stays coordinated through their GP, etc. So not sure video camera, etc is enough. Or the connection between medical records - the data infrastructure - is quite there - yet.
That said - if under supervision in person of a NP or such - it would scale the doc access. Like at the Minute Clinics .....
Nice re-share MN for the context! Besides countries like India or China trying to scale access efficiently - I would think countries with socialized medicine and a sharp focus on obesity - say - the UK - would be of great interest too.
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