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Post by nylefty on Mar 25, 2016 9:30:10 GMT -5
It's RLS's decision, not MannKind's. April 5th is the day that MannKind may regain control of Afrezza, but RLS has nothing to do with Afrezza and could reveal more information about itself tomorrow or months from now. The agreement with RLS involves Technosphere, not Afrezza. So we could know "who RLS is" whenever RLS wants us to know, whether it's before or long after April Lefty, you talk like you are on the RLS board. You sound like this is a fact! No one knows who RLS is! No one knows why they are not disclosing who they are! We have no news we are all speculating! IMHO I believe Matt and MannKind don't want sanofi to know who RLS is! Answer me this, " why would MannKind care if the investors knew"? I think it's more logical to believe they are keeping it from sanofi. And if I were Matt I would stick it up there ass and announce it April 5th! Patten: MannKind has said that RLS doesn't want its investors known at this time. It's up to RLS to reveal their identity, not MannKind. The FAQ that MannKind put out about the agreement said the investors are from the Seattle area (Google is not in the Seattle area). Here's what the FAQ said: The licensing agreement is between MannKind and Receptor Life Sciences, Inc., an independent
company, not affiliated with MannKind. The company is private and newly formed under this
name. We can confirm that the company is funded by an important investor group, supported
by prominent business leaders in the Seattle area. Alfred Mann is not an investor or in any way
affiliated with Receptor. MannKind did significant diligence in regards to Receptor and its
financial backers, and came away quite impressed. But the underlying investors, for good
reasons of their own, need not and choose not to disclose their involvement at this time.
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Post by jonl on Mar 25, 2016 19:12:50 GMT -5
Google is in Seattle. They are in the Fremont neighborhood and plan on moving into South Lake Union which is packed full of other Biotech companies. Paul Allen's real estate team is developing the site right next to his Allen Institute for bio science (https://alleninstitute.org/about/) Source: www.geekwire.com/2016/paul-allens-vulcan-develop-huge-complex-google-amazons-backyard/Edit: not implying that google does biotech things in Seattle currently, but this is more room than they need. Perhaps verily will move in? Also the its interesting that they would pick a site next to many other bio-related companies |
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Post by patten1962 on Mar 26, 2016 5:55:29 GMT -5
Google is in Seattle. They are in the Fremont neighborhood and plan on moving into South Lake Union which is packed full of other Biotech companies. Paul Allen's real estate team is developing the site right next to his Allen Institute for bio science (https://alleninstitute.org/about/) Source: www.geekwire.com/2016/paul-allens-vulcan-develop-huge-complex-google-amazons-backyard/Edit: not implying that google does biotech things in Seattle currently, but this is more room than they need. Perhaps verily will move in? Also the its interesting that they would pick a site next to many other bio-related companies The question is, "Why doesn't RLS and MannKind want anyone to know who RLS is"? My guess and it's only a guess is because they are keeping it from Sanofi. If they don't tell us when Sanofi is gone NY Lefty is correct. Problem is All of us are guessing because Matt said he can't comment on a lot of things until Sanofi is gone (in so many words, don't quote me). |
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Post by matt on Mar 26, 2016 7:55:48 GMT -5
There are perfectly good competitive reasons for keeping a low profile. I am involved in launching a new biotech at the moment, we are licensing a drug from an extremely well-known multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical company, and it is all very hush hush. The reason is that the product we are licensing was developed for other indications, but we are using it for a novel use based on knowledge of a little known mechanism of action. The problem is that this is not the only molecule in the class that can be used in this way, and we don't want others to see what we are doing until we are at least past Phase II to insure that we protect the first to market position.
RLP might be in much the same situation. While being public gives you better access to the public markets, if you can raise funds elsewhere sometimes you are better off waiting to make the required disclosures. Just because RLP is licensing technology from MNKD they are under no obligation to say more.
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Post by uvula on Mar 26, 2016 8:36:17 GMT -5
So if we actually manage to uncover something we will potentially be damaging mnkd. Y'all realize these message boards are public, right?
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Post by agedhippie on Mar 26, 2016 10:32:29 GMT -5
Problem is All of us are guessing because Matt said he can't comment on a lot of things until Sanofi is gone (in so many words, don't quote me). Sanofi could not care less one way or the other at this point. They have terminated the Afrezza agreement and are just working out the notice period. They do not believe anything can save this since they could not do it. Their only concern at this point is shutting down the losses. Other than breaching confidences I do not see what difference Sanofi makes since those will persist anyway. Right now I think this is more about having an excuse not to say anything. |
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Post by peppy on Mar 26, 2016 13:38:44 GMT -5
patten, do not take this in the wrong way. You are making stuff up.
The story I want to believe is really really good to my thought processes.
Not sure any of it is true.
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Post by LosingMyBullishness on Mar 26, 2016 16:47:38 GMT -5
Patten,
you said:
"The question is, "Why doesn't RLS and MannKind want anyone to know who RLS is"?
This is not what my question would be. I understand that you keep mixing RLS and MNKD's interests as you wish that there will be a big boom on April 5th, when Google and MNKD make a collaboration public, SNY get kicked and you get rich. You ignore that people reiterated here that MNKD has nothing to do with RLS decision to keep private as a private company.
I would categorize this as "extreme wishful thinking" that makes you temptable to bad decision. Just a friendly advice.
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Post by LosingMyBullishness on Mar 26, 2016 17:00:37 GMT -5
So if we actually manage to uncover something we will potentially be damaging mnkd. Y'all realize these message boards are public, right? Oh, the antagonist of patten, RLS is not Google but some sinister company with weird or weed products. So MNKD persuaded RLS to keep a low profile and stay a private company to conceal what MNKD said about RLS: We can confirm that the company is funded by an important investor group, supported by prominent business leaders in the Seattle area. Alfred Mann is not an investor or in any way affiliated with Receptor. MannKind did significant diligence in regards to Receptor and its financial backers, and came away quite impressedI love to learn more about your FUD argument. |
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Post by uvula on Mar 26, 2016 19:42:46 GMT -5
So if we actually manage to uncover something we will potentially be damaging mnkd. Y'all realize these message boards are public, right? Oh, the antagonist of patten, RLS is not Google but some sinister company with weird or weed products. So MNKD persuaded RLS to keep a low profile and stay a private company to conceal what MNKD said about RLS: We can confirm that the company is funded by an important investor group, supported by prominent business leaders in the Seattle area. Alfred Mann is not an investor or in any way affiliated with Receptor. MannKind did significant diligence in regards to Receptor and its financial backers, and came away quite impressedI love to learn more about your FUD argument.
Was this directed at me? If so I don't understand what you are saying. All I meant was that if RLS and/or MNKD don't want anyone to know who RLS is then we are not doing RLS or MNKD any favors by trying to uncover more details than they want to reveal. I was not implying that RLS is doing anything negative. (So far of course we have not uncovered anything.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 20:14:00 GMT -5
Oh, the antagonist of patten, RLS is not Google but some sinister company with weird or weed products. So MNKD persuaded RLS to keep a low profile and stay a private company to conceal what MNKD said about RLS: We can confirm that the company is funded by an important investor group, supported by prominent business leaders in the Seattle area. Alfred Mann is not an investor or in any way affiliated with Receptor. MannKind did significant diligence in regards to Receptor and its financial backers, and came away quite impressedI love to learn more about your FUD argument.
Was this directed at me? If so I don't understand what you are saying. All I meant was that if RLS and/or MNKD don't want anyone to know who RLS is then we are not doing RLS or MNKD any favors by trying to uncover more details than they want to reveal. I was not implying that RLS is doing anything negative. (So far of course we have not uncovered anything.)
wow.. this message board uncovering who RLS is ? and they will get affected by this? This board is getting out of hand. all this board can do is google search and believe what they dream and think RLS should be. Back to realty there is big $$$ that might even have contacts with the firms and personnel that are listed with RLS contacts.. |
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Post by nylefty on Mar 26, 2016 21:58:02 GMT -5
"there is big $$$ that might even have contacts with the firms and personnel that are listed with RLS contacts.."
Huh?
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Post by LosingMyBullishness on Mar 27, 2016 4:25:36 GMT -5
Oh, the antagonist of patten, RLS is not Google but some sinister company with weird or weed products. So MNKD persuaded RLS to keep a low profile and stay a private company to conceal what MNKD said about RLS: We can confirm that the company is funded by an important investor group, supported by prominent business leaders in the Seattle area. Alfred Mann is not an investor or in any way affiliated with Receptor. MannKind did significant diligence in regards to Receptor and its financial backers, and came away quite impressedI love to learn more about your FUD argument.
Was this directed at me? If so I don't understand what you are saying. All I meant was that if RLS and/or MNKD don't want anyone to know who RLS is then we are not doing RLS or MNKD any favors by trying to uncover more details than they want to reveal. I was not implying that RLS is doing anything negative. (So far of course we have not uncovered anything.)
Yes, indeed. I tried to make this transparent by inserting a quote. I wondered what it could be that might damage MNKD when it becomes public. Again on MNKD not disclosing about RLS. If RLS would like to disclose something they would not do this via MNKD. And MNKD could not stop RLS from doing so. These are 2 different companies that just have business together. MNKD has business to a lot of companies and many are private companies. |
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Post by patten1962 on Mar 27, 2016 5:53:59 GMT -5
patten, do not take this in the wrong way. You are making stuff up. The story I want to believe is really really gtood to my thought processes. Not sure any of it is true. Peppy. No worries. I will say this, I am not "making stuff up" I have said all along that this is only a guess. Not trying to pump either. I am gonna hold on this this stock till either I am very rich, company is sold or it goes BK. What I find comical about this board is how angry and annoyed people get. No one on this board has any news about receptor life sciences, Google, or any other rumors. We are just guessing, but my guessing really bothers some of you. A little about myself I'm a 53 year old father of 3. I work in a hospital. And I think of myself as a pretty nice guy. Trying to learn as much about this company as I can. Peppy you have always been very kind to me. But some of you are very Grumpy. As smart as some of you are it's sad you never learned RESPECT! Happy Easter to all! |
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Post by uvula on Mar 27, 2016 8:28:50 GMT -5
Was this directed at me? If so I don't understand what you are saying. All I meant was that if RLS and/or MNKD don't want anyone to know who RLS is then we are not doing RLS or MNKD any favors by trying to uncover more details than they want to reveal. I was not implying that RLS is doing anything negative. (So far of course we have not uncovered anything.)
Yes, indeed. I tried to make this transparent by inserting a quote. I wondered what it could be that might damage MNKD when it becomes public. Again on MNKD not disclosing about RLS. If RLS would like to disclose something they would not do this via MNKD. And MNKD could not stop RLS from doing so. These are 2 different companies that just have business together. MNKD has business to a lot of companies and many are private companies. Not sure why you are trying to distort my simple comment. I never said that mnkd was doing something bad that they want to keep hidden. I merely said that there could be a legitimate business reason to keep details private and the company could be harmed if these details were revealed early. This is hardly FUD. |
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