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Post by uvula on Apr 25, 2016 1:08:25 GMT -5
Cows are vegetarians but we get high cholesterol from eating cows. Vegetarians, please explain this.
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Post by longinvstr on Apr 25, 2016 11:00:27 GMT -5
We're told to think of milk as a primary source of calcium and to tell our kids, "Drink more milk." Yet, the Cows who have a higher need for calcium (b/c they're making the stuff) drink no milk. They eat only greens. ADADC, please explain this
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Post by curiousdoc on Apr 25, 2016 12:33:48 GMT -5
No diet or treatment is a guarantee. Chance remains and you can always be unlucky The LCHF diet tends to reduce the small high density LDL and increase the large low density LDL. The small high density LDL is the one that does the damage. It also boosts HDL. Counterintutively it turns out to be fairly heart healthy. This is a topic of endless discussion on Type 2 forums since people get off drugs and insulin using it. cholesterol, high density, low density. Dr Esselstyn an expert, with the films to prove it. He explained it to me. Low density lipids sink. (sink like rocks thrown into the river.) they sink to the vessel wall. High Density lipids, float, like a balloon they move along. Dr. Esselstyn, no fat. Where does fat come from, cholesterol, animal products. Make Yourself Heart Attack Proof - Caldwell Esselstyn MD www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYTf0z_zVs0 screencast.com/t/d2ahbcu4
So the cure, animal products, no. spinach, probably. cabbage, start chewing. <--- opinionated
While I appreciate and value your knowledge of the markets, you are way in left field here. The mere notion that these molecules can be explained by how they "float" is totally absurd and should invalidate anything this guy says. There is no "floating". These are molecules. Even if there was floating, there is no air fluid level within the vessels so even the floating molecules would float right against the vessel walls. Not to mention, something higher in density would sink, rather than float... First off, dietary cholesterol intake has zero correlation for plasma lipid levels (aside from rare cases of metabolic derangement or lipid processing disorders). I am not going to bore everyone rebuffing this absurd claim. For anyone who really wants to understand the complicated nuances of cholesterol (and I suggest any diabetic or anyone taking a statin do so) please read this series of posts. It it 9 parts and will read like a chapter. But after reading it you will know more than most doctors. eatingacademy.com/nutrition/the-straight-dope-on-cholesterol-part-iThose with a medical/science background can probably skip the first part or two.
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Post by peppy on Apr 25, 2016 12:54:55 GMT -5
cholesterol, high density, low density. Dr Esselstyn an expert, with the films to prove it. He explained it to me. Low density lipids sink. (sink like rocks thrown into the river.) they sink to the vessel wall. High Density lipids, float, like a balloon they move along. Dr. Esselstyn, no fat. Where does fat come from, cholesterol, animal products. Make Yourself Heart Attack Proof - Caldwell Esselstyn MD www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYTf0z_zVs0 screencast.com/t/d2ahbcu4
So the cure, animal products, no. spinach, probably. cabbage, start chewing. <--- opinionated
While I appreciate and value your knowledge of the markets, you are way in left field here. The mere notion that these molecules can be explained by how they "float" is totally absurd and should invalidate anything this guy says. There is no "floating". These are molecules. Even if there was floating, there is no air fluid level within the vessels so even the floating molecules would float right against the vessel walls. Not to mention, something higher in density would sink, rather than float... First off, dietary cholesterol intake has zero correlation for plasma lipid levels (aside from rare cases of metabolic derangement or lipid processing disorders). I am not going to bore everyone rebuffing this absurd claim. For anyone who really wants to understand the complicated nuances of cholesterol (and I suggest any diabetic or anyone taking a statin do so) please read this series of posts. It it 9 parts and will read like a chapter. But after reading it you will know more than most doctors. eatingacademy.com/nutrition/the-straight-dope-on-cholesterol-part-iThose with a medical/science background can probably skip the first part or two. Right there with you. Our bodies will manufacture cholesterol, yes. My favorite, testosterone precursor is cholesterol.
I better study up to understand this one: "dietary cholesterol intake has zero correlation for plasma lipid levels " I have not gotten HDL's and LDL levels in years, Less than 40 mg/dL (1.0 mmol/L) those are plasma levels. One of my secret motto's is, "it's better with butter."
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Post by peppy on Apr 25, 2016 13:08:56 GMT -5
cholesterol, high density, low density. Dr Esselstyn an expert, with the films to prove it. He explained it to me. Low density lipids sink. (sink like rocks thrown into the river.) they sink to the vessel wall. High Density lipids, float, like a balloon they move along. Dr. Esselstyn, no fat. Where does fat come from, cholesterol, animal products. Make Yourself Heart Attack Proof - Caldwell Esselstyn MD www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYTf0z_zVs0 screencast.com/t/d2ahbcu4
So the cure, animal products, no. spinach, probably. cabbage, start chewing. <--- opinionated
While I appreciate and value your knowledge of the markets, you are way in left field here. The mere notion that these molecules can be explained by how they "float" is totally absurd and should invalidate anything this guy says. There is no "floating". These are molecules. Even if there was floating, there is no air fluid level within the vessels so even the floating molecules would float right against the vessel walls. Not to mention, something higher in density would sink, rather than float... First off, dietary cholesterol intake has zero correlation for plasma lipid levels (aside from rare cases of metabolic derangement or lipid processing disorders). I am not going to bore everyone rebuffing this absurd claim. For anyone who really wants to understand the complicated nuances of cholesterol (and I suggest any diabetic or anyone taking a statin do so) please read this series of posts. It it 9 parts and will read like a chapter. But after reading it you will know more than most doctors. eatingacademy.com/nutrition/the-straight-dope-on-cholesterol-part-iThose with a medical/science background can probably skip the first part or two. ok, curious doc, I was hanging my head, then chapter 15 page, 327, look what it says; screencast.com/t/7ZjrclJEI
don't worry, I know I am a dumb POS.
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Post by tomson1355 on Apr 25, 2016 17:12:24 GMT -5
Longinvstr, in case your question was serious: Cows that make a lot of milk are supplemented with calcium, and some greens, like alfalfa, are high in calcium. Grasses are not high in calcium, which is one of the reasons grass-fed cows don't make a lot of milk. A high-producing cow might consume 1/2 lb of calcium a day.
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Post by afrezzamiracle on Apr 25, 2016 21:44:51 GMT -5
Reeling this thread back toward from which it originated--I think having celebs such as Tom Hanks on Afrezza would be great for marketing! Let's do it.
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Post by nylefty on Apr 25, 2016 22:27:26 GMT -5
Reeling this thread back toward from which it originated--I think having celebs such as Tom Hanks on Afrezza would be great for marketing! Let's do it. "Easier Said Than Done" was a popular song sung by The Essex that was a number-one song in the United States during 1963. It topped the Billboard Hot 100 ...
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