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Post by bradleysbest on Sept 12, 2016 0:13:27 GMT -5
Are any of you in the same boat as me simply hoping I get my investment back & have forgotten about making a profit? I really do appreciate the spirit & fight of Mike C & his team in trying to make Afrezza & MNKD a success. Just seems like the deck is stacked against us & PWD due to dark forces outside our control. Yes management has caused some self inflicted pain along the way too but I figured the "user results" would really trigger the endo's ito write scripts. Just venting so thanks for listening! Please don't tell me to sell (I won't) cause I'm willing to risk it all win or lose!
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Post by tayl5 on Sept 12, 2016 0:27:48 GMT -5
I understand your thinking, brad, but this is a win/lose situation. I don't see a scenario where investors should aim to just win back their investment. It's not that I wouldn't mind winning back my investment (I'd be delighted, in fact) it's that from here we either soon see the commercial traction we need to eventually do very well or we lose it all. If we're chugging ahead, there's no reason to get off the train early. If we've crashed and burned, your invested money is gone.
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Post by BlueCat on Sept 12, 2016 2:33:15 GMT -5
Are any of you in the same boat as me simply hoping I get my investment back & have forgotten about making a profit? I really do appreciate the spirit & fight of Mike C & his team in trying to make Afrezza & MNKD a success. Just seems like the deck is stacked against us & PWD due to dark forces outside our control. Yes management has caused some self inflicted pain along the way too but I figured the "user results" would really trigger the endo's ito write scripts. Just venting so thanks for listening! Please don't tell me to sell (I won't) cause I'm willing to risk it all win or lose! I found it was like the stages of loss. Shock, Denial, Hope, Negotiation, etc. Still working on it. At this point, I find there is realistically nothing more to lose (relatively speaking), and the damage financially has already been done and inflicted upon life and family and triage mostly performed. Therefore, figure it either goes: - BK - lose all (stock price only .69 away now)
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- Early B.O. after some sales traction, overseas deals, RLS movement - Manageable loss (perhaps if sold at $5/share - not out of range I think with a few catalysts based on history)
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- Win - Neither of the above happen along the way to breakeven (would be considered a win for many here I think), or better, eventual profit (those Santa projections).
Granted - If it goes up a bit, I may take a little off table to pay some bills. But otherwise - because the current price is so beyond the Hawaii Trail-of-Desolation, I think there are a number of folks here in same boat. Why sell? Downside is so limited, and upside potential is still there. And it could yet save my retirement. I've got a few years I can wait. Find I get fatigue watching it now, continuously thinking that something has to give - in a good way! But then, it doesn't. If I otherwise had a pot of gold, I'd probably just leave it in the account and not look at it for a long time. So I find solace in reading posts like yours, since unfortunately, the hope posts just don't seem to come to fruition. But I thank Pandora and read 'em anyway. |
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Post by slugworth008 on Sept 12, 2016 6:21:02 GMT -5
Are any of you in the same boat as me simply hoping I get my investment back & have forgotten about making a profit? I really do appreciate the spirit & fight of Mike C & his team in trying to make Afrezza & MNKD a success. Just seems like the deck is stacked against us & PWD due to dark forces outside our control. Yes management has caused some self inflicted pain along the way too but I figured the "user results" would really trigger the endo's ito write scripts. Just venting so thanks for listening! Please don't tell me to sell (I won't) cause I'm willing to risk it all win or lose! I found it was like the stages of loss. Shock, Denial, Hope, Negotiation, etc. Still working on it. At this point, I find there is realistically nothing more to lose (relatively speaking), and the damage financially has already been done and inflicted upon life and family and triage mostly performed. Therefore, figure it either goes: - BK - lose all (stock price only .69 away now)
or
- Early B.O. after some sales traction, overseas deals, RLS movement - Manageable loss (perhaps if sold at $5/share - not out of range I think with a few catalysts based on history)
or
- Win - Neither of the above happen along the way to breakeven (would be considered a win for many here I think), or better, eventual profit (those Santa projections).
Granted - If it goes up a bit, I may take a little off table to pay some bills. But otherwise - because the current price is so beyond the Hawaii Trail-of-Desolation, I think there are a number of folks here in same boat. Why sell? Downside is so limited, and upside potential is still there. And it could yet save my retirement. I've got a few years I can wait. Find I get fatigue watching it now, continuously thinking that something has to give - in a good way! But then, it doesn't. If I otherwise had a pot of gold, I'd probably just leave it in the account and not look at it for a long time. So I find solace in reading posts like yours, since unfortunately, the hope posts just don't seem to come to fruition. But I thank Pandora and read 'em anyway. Awesome post x2 - I so agree with it !! |
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Post by slugworth008 on Sept 12, 2016 6:21:22 GMT -5
Are any of you in the same boat as me simply hoping I get my investment back & have forgotten about making a profit? I really do appreciate the spirit & fight of Mike C & his team in trying to make Afrezza & MNKD a success. Just seems like the deck is stacked against us & PWD due to dark forces outside our control. Yes management has caused some self inflicted pain along the way too but I figured the "user results" would really trigger the endo's ito write scripts. Just venting so thanks for listening! Please don't tell me to sell (I won't) cause I'm willing to risk it all win or lose! I so feel ya. Ditto. |
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Post by audiomr on Sept 12, 2016 12:31:41 GMT -5
I expect to make money.
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Post by MnkdWASmyRtrmntPlan on Sept 12, 2016 14:55:13 GMT -5
I completely agree. I was a late starter buying Mannkind compared to most people here. I started buying at $3.80, kept adding, and am now down to about $2.00 per share average. I have sunk about 20% of my retirement savings and I am 57. But, I am completely comfortable with that current paper loss, because I entirely expect to make so much money that I actually will be able to retire. I don't understand the "just make my money back" mentality. Mannkind is just not that kind of investment. Mannkind is either Jackpot or Bust. Yeah, it may bust ... or, sell-out in such a way that we end up taking a big loss, but considering my opinion of the odds, regarding my retirement savings ... right here, right now, there is no place that I'd rather be. Good Luck to All Longs |
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Post by prvs on Sept 12, 2016 16:46:16 GMT -5
Are any of you in the same boat as me simply hoping I get my investment back & have forgotten about making a profit? I really do appreciate the spirit & fight of Mike C & his team in trying to make Afrezza & MNKD a success. Just seems like the deck is stacked against us & PWD due to dark forces outside our control. Yes management has caused some self inflicted pain along the way too but I figured the "user results" would really trigger the endo's ito write scripts. Just venting so thanks for listening! Please don't tell me to sell (I won't) cause I'm willing to risk it all win or lose! On bad days I feel this way too. On meh days I think I'll get my money back and MNKD has had an interest free loan of my money for three years. On good days, I'm gonna be rich, baby!!! |
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Post by buyitonsale on Sept 13, 2016 0:21:09 GMT -5
It's not just win or loose. There is also plan B (as in BO), so get your averages under 4 or lower. Now is your chance... I am 180K shares long. I hope Longstocking is keeping up  |
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Post by gamblerjag on Sept 13, 2016 1:52:41 GMT -5
Buyit... I can see a B/O when scripts incease and after a domestic deal is in place and some milestone payments.. but there will be no deal imo opinion until then.. that's where MNKD will have some leverage.. so where you say buy all you can under $4 bucks or try to average down below $4 bucks.. that would get many a double if sold for 8 bucks or 4 billion.. still a little low for my taste... but the days of 12-15 billion buyout or $28 -30 a share that was speculated by George Rho and some others late 2014 /early in 2015 are pretty much gone.. at least in the next 3 years. After that who knows.
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Post by buyitonsale on Sept 13, 2016 11:09:32 GMT -5
BO is an eventual possibility and I view it as s neutral outcome. What is the minimum price that may be acceptable to majority shareholders? I see i3 to 4 per share and therefore positioned myself accordingly. I'm not saying to buy under 4, I'm saying to get the average below the perceived Ivalue in case of a fire sale scenario. I'm sure many would argue that the low end is below 3 but that is my rheory.
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Post by babaoriley on Sept 13, 2016 11:51:46 GMT -5
I completely agree. I was a late starter buying Mannkind compared to most people here. I started buying at $3.80, kept adding, and am now down to about $2.00 per share average. I have sunk about 20% of my retirement savings and I am 57. But, I am completely comfortable with that current paper loss, because I entirely expect to make so much money that I actually will be able to retire. I don't understand the "just make my money back" mentality. Mannkind is just not that kind of investment. Mannkind is either Jackpot or Bust. Yeah, it may bust ... or, sell-out in such a way that we end up taking a big loss, but considering my opinion of the odds, regarding my retirement savings ... right here, right now, there is no place that I'd rather be. Good Luck to All Longs Love your spirit, Retirement Plan, but the thing about making a whole lotta money on MNKD - well, we're all bucking one big thing in that respect, and that's the number of shares outstanding (with the potential of more to come). Having a BO at about $3-$5 would be great if it happened within the next 6 mos to a year. |
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Post by dictatorsaurus on Sept 13, 2016 12:20:03 GMT -5
I completely agree. I was a late starter buying Mannkind compared to most people here. I started buying at $3.80, kept adding, and am now down to about $2.00 per share average. I have sunk about 20% of my retirement savings and I am 57. But, I am completely comfortable with that current paper loss, because I entirely expect to make so much money that I actually will be able to retire. I don't understand the "just make my money back" mentality. Mannkind is just not that kind of investment. Mannkind is either Jackpot or Bust. Yeah, it may bust ... or, sell-out in such a way that we end up taking a big loss, but considering my opinion of the odds, regarding my retirement savings ... right here, right now, there is no place that I'd rather be. Good Luck to All Longs Love your spirit, Retirement Plan, but the thing about making a whole lotta money on MNKD - well, we're all bucking one big thing in that respect, and that's the number of shares outstanding (with the potential of more to come). Having a BO at about $3-$5 would be great if it happened within the next 6 mos to a year. If BO happens at $5, what happens to those who got in over $6 or $7? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 12:27:33 GMT -5
Love your spirit, Retirement Plan, but the thing about making a whole lotta money on MNKD - well, we're all bucking one big thing in that respect, and that's the number of shares outstanding (with the potential of more to come). Having a BO at about $3-$5 would be great if it happened within the next 6 mos to a year. If BO happens at $5, what happens to those who got in over $6 or $7? seriously? they get $5 too. |
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Post by cretin11 on Sept 13, 2016 14:15:39 GMT -5
Love your spirit, Retirement Plan, but the thing about making a whole lotta money on MNKD - well, we're all bucking one big thing in that respect, and that's the number of shares outstanding (with the potential of more to come). Having a BO at about $3-$5 would be great if it happened within the next 6 mos to a year. If BO happens at $5, what happens to those who got in over $6 or $7? Are there any investors who got in at $6 or $7 who have not dollar cost averaged down from that? If so, those people would ask themselves why they didn't do that. |
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